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SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 1st, 2023, 6:14
by tcccorp
hello,

I saw many trouble with this SSD ... and I've a trouble :(

I worked and suddently my computer was freezed . I tried to restart and nothing happened

if I put this SSD on another computer with another disk, start is very very slow ( boot is done on the another disk) .

on the explorer, 870 disk is seen with 2 partitions but I'm not able to go inside. In the device tab, I can see this disk ( a least name). On the partition tab, I can see 2 partitions.

If i use magician, after a very long time, this 870 evo is not seen .

i saw several topics for this model but I didin't find how to try to repair my disk to retrieve datas ...

if someone have an idea, i'll be happy :), thanks

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 1st, 2023, 6:48
by labtech
It cannot be repaired, due to nand flash degradation & possibly now has turned into a firmware problem.
Shut it down and clone it, if still possible, with something like ddrescue or hddsuperclone (check their tutorials).
Then use data recovery software to recover the files to yet another drive.

Otherwise, find a data recovery specialist (not a computer shop).

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 1st, 2023, 7:31
by tcccorp
hello Labtech,

I'm not able to clone this disk;( so only way is ask to a specialt?

Thanks

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 1st, 2023, 7:48
by Lardman
I've had a number of these where although the capacity is correct the UA was not accessible despite my best efforts and they've had to be returned unrecovered. There is no support for EVO's in pc3K, if it's got that far you can try a dr lab but manage your expectations.

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 1st, 2023, 8:12
by tcccorp
hello Lardman,

thanks for your answer. so disk to the bin :(

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 1st, 2023, 10:05
by tcccorp
do you know if there is a way to have a SWD or JTAG pins on PCB? I didn't find a datasheet :(

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 1st, 2023, 19:04
by fzabkar
tcccorp wrote:do you know if there is a way to have a SWD or JTAG pins on PCB? I didn't find a datasheet :(

I think people use something like JTAGulator.

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 2nd, 2023, 2:25
by pepe
It's gonna be a long trip, be prepared.

pepe

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 2nd, 2023, 3:52
by Lardman
tcccorp, This might give you a little insight - http://www2.futureware.at/~philipp/ssd/ ... Manual.pdf

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 5th, 2023, 14:58
by tcccorp
hello all

Thanks a lot for your answer. So I think if I m able to change controler, it ll work?

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 5th, 2023, 15:18
by pepe
Nope, controller is most likely just fine.

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 5th, 2023, 15:20
by Lardman
tcccorp wrote: So I think if I m able to change controler, it ll work?
Unlikely - the controller itself is probably fine, the firmware is stored on the nand chips .

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 7th, 2023, 5:18
by tcccorp
Lardman wrote:tcccorp, This might give you a little insight - http://www2.futureware.at/~philipp/ssd/ ... Manual.pdf


Thanks a lot Lardman, it is very interesting ! I ve to read this pdf in details and learn more !

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 7th, 2023, 5:22
by tcccorp
Lardman wrote:
tcccorp wrote: So I think if I m able to change controler, it ll work?
Unlikely - the controller itself is probably fine, the firmware is stored on the nand chips .


hello
so it does mean, even I m be able to find jtag or swd, i should "dump" flash but it ll be in raw and I'll not be able to recover something because at least it ll be xored and data could be everywhere.... I'm right ?

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 7th, 2023, 16:20
by pepe
you cannot dump NAND through jtag, at least not as easily as you probably think. It would require programming skills in multiple platforms, or knowledge about boundary scan parameters, and on top of that it would be very slow. Then you would face the problems everybody faces who tries chip-off on these...

pepe

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 14th, 2023, 5:50
by tcccorp
hello,

for your information, trouble was too many error on the nand. PC3000 was able to read this ssd and retrieve some data :)

Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To

Posted: October 16th, 2023, 17:39
by labtech
Thanks for confirming the initial diagnosis suspicion.