pc-3000 from russia

[HaQue]

GPS is simple serial data. Would be trivial to inject fake signals into the serial stream to spoof location.

Much the same as Sony Playstation games encoded the letters S C E A into the wobble track of the CD-ROM and once it was read at lead-in if the processor did not get the letters from decoding the wobble track, it believed it was a burnt disc. Solution was to code a PIC 12c508A with an XTAL to inject the letters into the stream.

IMHO GPS might be considered going too far re privacy as well.

[vvpc]

if I use a proxy server, Russia, what do you think happens?

[einstein9]

if I use a proxy server, Russia, what do you think happens?

when you 1st. activated your lic. THEY save your Activation IP (which means location country)

if you try from another place, it will trigger the server there (means you are TRYING to cross the line)

so when you Do receive the activation file, (and here is the trick)

you will never KNOW if this will work OR Flag/Destroy your card for good.

Advice:

When you 1st. decided to buy it, you suppose to know all of this, thats why acelab DO NOT transfer lic. from owner to another

in fact, since you just bought it, better to finalize it with acelab and PAY
and live the rest of your life in peace.

[Touchclarity]

better to finalize it with acelab and PAY and live the rest of your life in peace.

[lcoughey]

Would you trust your confidential financial data with a data recovery lab that is not even honest with their suppliers?

[data-medics]

Wow, only $2000 for PC-3000. If you came here to the USA and used it you'd be saving like $5000. Which would really piss off guys like me who paid the US prices.

If you've used PC-3000 already then you know how indispensable it is in DR. Pay up, and keep you relationship with Ace. If they blacklist you for trying to get around their pricing system, then you'll be up a creek when they stop support for the current systems in favor of new ones down the road.

[Doomer]

These kind of topics are not welcome on this forum, I believe
Legally you are not suppose to use Russian cards outside of Russia, so please don't ask for illegal solutions here

[pclab]

The prices are very different indeed, but that's the way they work. You just have to agree or not.
If you agree, you have to play by their rules. If you don't agree, don't buy it.

[lcoughey]

Wow, only $2000 for PC-3000. If you came here to the USA and used it you'd be saving like $5000. Which would really piss off guys like me who paid the US prices.

If you've used PC-3000 already then you know how indispensable it is in DR. Pay up, and keep you relationship with Ace. If they blacklist you for trying to get around their pricing system, then you'll be up a creek when they stop support for the current systems in favor of new ones down the road.

Hey, I paid over $12,000 for each of my systems...so, at $7,000, you got a deal.

[vvpc]

ordered DFL-DE + WDII +STII = 3200 USD, I will try to use Chinese products

[happygo]

i wonder if the price is negotiable.
or ace sells pc3k everyone in same area same price

[HaQue]

These kind of topics are not welcome on this forum, I believe
Legally you are not suppose to use Russian cards outside of Russia, so please don't ask for illegal solutions here

There is a difference between Legality and breaking a contract. Breaking a contract goes to civil court and is only relevant if Ace decide to chase it up. I am not commenting here on the ethical\or "right thing" to do, just makind a distinction between the two.

The difference in pricing gets directly to the strange core of human nature - we don't ever want anyone getting a "better deal" or "more" than us. Study I read about was a guy would walk up to some person on the street and said "would you object to me giving you $50?" Obviously, after the "where is the catch" thing the person agrees. Now the guy says, ok, would you agree to me giving you $50, and also me giving that guy over there $2,000.. or would you rather I give each of you nothing. The deal is EXACTLY the same for you.. NOTHING has changed, but a huge percent chose nothing.

If something costs $2,000 in Russia, and $10,000 in the US, then that is ridiculous. Sure the tool may be good, and the whole doing the right thing to your customers, but remember YOU are a customer too, and how are you being treated? Imagine if we charged Indians $35 for a recovery, Canadians $130 and Irish $400. No different than what ACE is doing but lets see you get away with that.

I absolutely agree with having all your licensing and legit tools, and paying a good amount to people that develop good tools. I don't agree with biting the pillow because there is nothing else, or because it "looks good" to your peers and customers.

This is not a discussion about fake or pirated tools, it is about the same tool being sold in a prejudicial manner.

That said, If I was ever going to learn HDD recovery, I would buy ACE too :-\

[lcoughey]

ordered DFL-DE + WDII +STII = 3200 USD, I will try to use Chinese products

IMHO, you just wasted $3200 that you will never be able to get back can't apply to the purchase of PC3K.

[Doomer]

Imagine if we charged Indians $35 for a recovery, Canadians $130 and Irish $400.

Technically it's happening, in India, Canada in Ireland respectively


Anyway DR tools is a big pirate world on itself
Salvation data products is just a poor copy of AceLab products, they buy PC3000, strip it down and try to reproduce the functions, they even stolen HDDScan GUI interface for one of the tools, like they couldn't make their own GUI
Dolphin lab WD tool is a GUI interface given to proprietary WD TRex software, apparently stolen again
PC3000 itself has some stolen features (not all obviously) from proprietary software and smuggled vendor manuals

And obviously all commercial DR tools have vendor commands that are property of HDD vendors, which is already law breaking thing So, maybe your are right, contract breaking is a not a big thing here

[fzabkar]

Legally you are not suppose to use Russian cards outside of Russia, so please don't ask for illegal solutions here

Russian law does not apply outside of Russia.

In fact there are precedents in Australian law that prohibit discriminatory pricing. For example, Australian courts have upheld the right for users to hack their Sony PlayStations to circumvent Sony's predatory restrictions. We can also buy DVD players without region coding, right out of the box. However, there are some vague interpretations of copyright law that appear to prevent parallel importation of certain products.

[fzabkar]

i wonder if the price is negotiable.
or ace sells pc3k everyone in same area same price :?:

If Ace labs would sell PC3K to me for $2000, I promise to charge only $200 for my data recoveries. Do we have a deal?

[lcoughey]

i wonder if the price is negotiable.
or ace sells pc3k everyone in same area same price

If Ace labs would sell PC3K to me for $2000, I promise to charge only $200 for my data recoveries. Do we have a deal?

You wouldn't make much money after you buy donor drives for that $200 project.

[Doomer]

Legally you are not suppose to use Russian cards outside of Russia, so please don't ask for illegal solutions here

Russian law does not apply outside of Russia.

In fact there are precedents in Australian law that prohibit discriminatory pricing. For example, Australian courts have upheld the right for users to hack their Sony PlayStations to circumvent Sony's predatory restrictions. We can also buy DVD players without region coding, right out of the box. However, there are some vague interpretations of copyright law that appear to prevent parallel importation of certain products.

sure, there are different laws in different countries
But PC3000 is not easy to hack, and they can do whatever they want with your card, theoretically

[vvpc]

Here is the link to the Russian site ACE www.acelab.ru/dep.pc/price.php Price in rubles 35 rubles= 1$

[guru]

Fair-dinkum!

Legally you are not suppose to use Russian cards outside of Russia, so please don't ask for illegal solutions here

Russian law does not apply outside of Russia.

In fact there are precedents in Australian law that prohibit discriminatory pricing. For example, Australian courts have upheld the right for users to hack their Sony PlayStations to circumvent Sony's predatory restrictions. We can also buy DVD players without region coding, right out of the box. However, there are some vague interpretations of copyright law that appear to prevent parallel importation of certain products.