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 Post subject: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 10:21 
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Hello: I have a WD1600AAJS-60M0A1 that the BIOS does not recognize properly. I have been told that I need to update the firmware, but I can not find it anywhere. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Gary


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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 10:23 
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This is incorrect. Who told you this?

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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 10:38 
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Sorry, I don't know what you mean by incorrect. If you dont mind, what would your recommendation be. Thanks Gary


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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 10:48 
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You don't need to "update the firmware". My recommendation would be to have it evaluated by a pro.

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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 10:55 
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Appreciate the quick replies... A friend gave me a bunch of these and I just want to format them for windows. I dont have data that needs recovery. Thanks Gary


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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 10:58 
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@ctpackship,

From your last comment it seems you may no longer care, but at least for anyone else reading this thread, then just to reinforce the comments from drc, I suggest you read this thread linked below, including the part about: "Okay, my hard drive is still dead, so how do I rewrite that firmware?"

diy-what-the-big-deal-t12671.html


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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 11:15 
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I would like to add that in 99.9% of cases, "updating the firmware" is not a concept that is relevant to hard drives. I can think of two or three specific recent examples that have had firmware updates (Seagate 7200.11 family 0GB issues, few WDs that don't play well with RAID controllers) but for the vast majority of drives firmware is never "updated".

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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 12:41 
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drc wrote:
for the vast majority of drives firmware is never "updated".

For retail customers, I completely agree. However in my years working in engineering for a large OEM customer of drives, most drives (especially Seagate) had at least one, if not several, firmware update(s) during their life - the bugfixes were sometimes minor (and sometimes not!).


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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 12:57 
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I should have specified, for "normal people"

It seems that a lot of users think of updating the firmware on their hard drive like they would update a motherboard BIOS or something, which is simply not the case

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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 13:55 
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I see we're in violent agreement that this applies to most people :) (and that's why I mentioned that agreement for retail customers in my previous reply). It's just that there are firmware updates (that retail customers are unlikely to see or need), in some corporate / OEM environments, that's all.


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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 13:59 
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Well, someone in these environments is probably not likely pop up here asking about how to fix broken drives with a firmware update :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 15:33 
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Dell's FTP site has numerous firmware updates for all manufacturers and models. Samsung's SpinPoint F3 and F4 updates are another critical example.

http://ftp.dell.com/fibre-channel/
http://ftp.dell.com/ide/
http://ftp.dell.com/sata/
http://ftp.dell.com/sas-hdd/
http://ftp.dell.com/sas-non-raid/
http://ftp.dell.com/sas-raid/
http://ftp.dell.com/scsi-drv/
http://ftp.dell.com/scsi-non-raid/
http://ftp.dell.com/scsi-raid/

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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 15:37 
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ctpackship wrote:
Appreciate the quick replies... A friend gave me a bunch of these and I just want to format them for windows. I dont have data that needs recovery.

Try testing them with AFF Repair Station online diagnostic software:
http://hdd-tools.com/products/rrs/

Diagnosis is free.

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 Post subject: Re: Need firmware for WD1600AAJS-60M0A1
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fzabkar wrote:
http://ftp.dell.com/sata/

To make an example, how many of these are actual firmware updates for hard drives? I clicked on a random sample of ten and all I see is AHCI drivers, RAID drivers, controller fw updates, etc.

How many firmware updates can you find on WD's support page (aside from the previously mentioned RAID controller fix) or Seagate's support page (aside from 7200.11-related drives)?

Are you suggesting that users' notion of "upgrading the firmware" on their hard drives to solve problems aside from a very small number of specific and well-documented cases is a correct or relevant notion, or are you just arguing for the sake of it?

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drc wrote:
fzabkar wrote:
http://ftp.dell.com/sata/

To make an example, how many of these are actual firmware updates for hard drives? I clicked on a random sample of ten and all I see is AHCI drivers, RAID drivers, controller fw updates, etc.

How many firmware updates can you find on WD's support page (aside from the previously mentioned RAID controller fix) or Seagate's support page (aside from 7200.11-related drives)?

Why random? Read the TXT files. And then there are the Toshiba and Samsung updates, plus the MULTI-DEVICE updates that package all the drive manufacturers into one big download.

drc wrote:
Are you suggesting that users' notion of "upgrading the firmware" on their hard drives to solve problems aside from a very small number of specific and well-documented cases is a correct or relevant notion, or are you just arguing for the sake of it?

Some updates are critical, others are performance related. Of course I'm not suggesting that a firmware update will fix the OP's problem, although it may indeed be "firmware" related in the data recovery sense. That's something that AFF Repair Station will hopefully be able to determine.

Here is a significant list of known HDD firmware issues:
https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/articles/k/ ... ssues.html

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