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PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 10th, 2012, 7:48
by loki
Hi,
As your aware I'm getting my PC3000 UDMA & PC3000 Flash SSD shortly & I am wondering what motherboard etc to use.
Currently I have a test / training desktop tower pc that is a socket 775 cpu connection, Dual gig lan, SATA2 ports, RAID 0,1,5,10 & 8Gb of DDR2 ram, PCI & PCIe. Have got an old pent 4D 3.4Ghz dual core cpu but was thinking of upgrading to a 3Ghz quad ive seen on Ebay. Would this be worth it or not?
Or should I build a i7 system?
If its ok then would you setup a raid 5 (12Tb) in it to use for storage or buy a NAS RAID 5 storage box?
Thanks
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 10th, 2012, 8:41
by guru
building-powerful-workstation-suggestions-welcome-t20443.htmlloki wrote:Hi,
As your aware I'm getting my PC3000 UDMA & PC3000 Flash SSD shortly & I am wondering what motherboard etc to use.
Currently I have a test / training desktop tower pc that is a socket 775 cpu connection, Dual gig lan, SATA2 ports, RAID 0,1,5,10 & 8Gb of DDR2 ram, PCI & PCIe. Have got an old pent 4D 3.4Ghz dual core cpu but was thinking of upgrading to a 3Ghz quad ive seen on Ebay. Would this be worth it or not?
Or should I build a i7 system?
If its ok then would you setup a raid 5 (12Tb) in it to use for storage or buy a NAS RAID 5 storage box?
Thanks
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 10th, 2012, 9:26
by loki
guru wrote:http://forum.hddguru.com/building-powerful-workstation-suggestions-welcome-t20443.html
loki wrote:Hi,
As your aware I'm getting my PC3000 UDMA & PC3000 Flash SSD shortly & I am wondering what motherboard etc to use.
Currently I have a test / training desktop tower pc that is a socket 775 cpu connection, Dual gig lan, SATA2 ports, RAID 0,1,5,10 & 8Gb of DDR2 ram, PCI & PCIe. Have got an old pent 4D 3.4Ghz dual core cpu but was thinking of upgrading to a 3Ghz quad ive seen on Ebay. Would this be worth it or not?
Or should I build a i7 system?
If its ok then would you setup a raid 5 (12Tb) in it to use for storage or buy a NAS RAID 5 storage box?
Thanks
Thanks yes I had read that, think I just wanted to confirm what I had was good enough.
Would you recommend a nas box or RAID in a PC?
Thanks
Loki
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 10th, 2012, 9:49
by einstein9
NAS is better, (RAID1) for ur important files
had 4TB before, added new 12TB recently
mine is I7 Extreme 12mb cache + 4GB mem + Asus MB (2 units)
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 10th, 2012, 10:24
by drc
IMO PC3K is not dependent on good/fast hardware at all. You will be limited by the speed of the slow/sick/failing drives you are trying to work with.
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 10th, 2012, 10:33
by guru
Now that would be great if my boss would also allow me to play BF3
einstein9 wrote:NAS is better, (RAID1) for ur important files
had 4TB before, added new 12TB recently
mine is I7 Extreme 12mb cache + 4GB mem + Asus MB (2 units)
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 10th, 2012, 10:37
by loki
guru wrote:Now that would be great if my boss would also allow me to play BF3
einstein9 wrote:NAS is better, (RAID1) for ur important files
had 4TB before, added new 12TB recently
mine is I7 Extreme 12mb cache + 4GB mem + Asus MB (2 units)
Now thats just cruel
might even be against your human rights
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 11th, 2012, 3:44
by einstein9
drc wrote:IMO PC3K is not dependent on good/fast hardware at all. You will be limited by the speed of the slow/sick/failing drives you are trying to work with.
sorry, but again disagree with u here
my DB is like 40GB more or less, searching in my db before used to take 40-1 1/5min on good P4
now not more than 20sec.
in addition MAC FS or Fat32 in DE now are more amazing.
btw & FYI, i did my homework with my stop watch using both options, faster processor helps alot
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 11th, 2012, 4:38
by guru
Does PC3000 support Multi Core / multi - thread?
I would be interested to see what a cheaper i5 3.33ghz will be like compared to your expensive Intel Extreme
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 11th, 2012, 8:50
by einstein9
Well, i guess i know what u mean PM on the way
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 13th, 2012, 14:48
by positivebit
PC3000UDMA -> bottle neck in transfer rate is in failing drives, system must be online 24h/24h so better to have i3 cpu (65Watts against 130W of i5/i7) a good Power (active) + good UPS
PC3000FLASH -> Bottle neck is in cpu+hard drive subsystem, here i have got i7 + SSD as hard drive in SATA6 mode (white colour from mobo)
In both system of course XP 32bit and a good motherboard ( i use asus with power control energy system with SATA6 + USB3.0 )
at the end you will get super stable system, but don't buy mobo with graphic card integrated.
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 13th, 2012, 16:27
by northwind
positivebit wrote: but don't buy mobo with graphic card integrated.
Interesting.
can you explain?
I have been running a udma on such machine with absolutely no problem. I chose integrated vga on mobo because i thought it is less power consuming.
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 13th, 2012, 17:45
by positivebit
System memory is shared with VGA memory, this always bring less stability.True about Vga integrated is less power consuption, but if u buy a basic Nvidia with silent cooler you will have only few watts but more clean system memory.
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 13th, 2012, 17:55
by positivebit
einstein9 wrote:...
my DB is like 40GB more or less, searching in my db before used to take 40-1 1/5min on good P4
now not more than 20sec.
in addition MAC FS or Fat32 in DE now are more amazing.
btw & FYI, i did my homework with my stop watch using both options, faster processor helps alot
This is interesting to test, if you can, just before asking something to DB to open CTRL+ALT+CANC and see cpu performance ( not the spike) and report?
I think you got better result of P4 becouse you had a better hard drive (40GB of database should run faster on a P4 with a SSD than a i7 with a SATA hard drive)
Rgds.
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 14th, 2012, 6:38
by einstein9
positivebit wrote:einstein9 wrote:...
my DB is like 40GB more or less, searching in my db before used to take 40-1 1/5min on good P4
now not more than 20sec.
in addition MAC FS or Fat32 in DE now are more amazing.
btw & FYI, i did my homework with my stop watch using both options, faster processor helps alot
This is interesting to test, if you can, just before asking something to DB to open CTRL+ALT+CANC and see cpu performance ( not the spike) and report?
I think you got better result of P4 becouse you had a better hard drive (40GB of database should run faster on a P4 with a SSD than a i7 with a SATA hard drive)
Rgds.
Sorry, but disagree with you here, i made my test/homework and SAW the Diff. here
and maybe you did not pay atten. to DE notes i mentioned, try and see it ur self my dear.
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 14th, 2012, 6:47
by positivebit
@einstein9
i did not write about DE in my last post, but about database speed.
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 16th, 2012, 8:31
by einstein9
Did you mean this??
got 2 for testing here
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: February 16th, 2012, 13:11
by positivebit
yes i meant that..can u test database performance compared to a motor one hdd..
2 in raid 0 could be amazing
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: March 8th, 2012, 19:00
by buster80
May be overkill but I find my ocz ssd makes a massive speed difference when creating tasks in DE
Re: PC hardware recommendations for PC3000 UDMA
Posted: March 9th, 2012, 4:27
by northwind
I'm changing my UDMA machines, will upgrade from old Athlon to this:
i5@ 3,3
4GB RAM
1x SSD OCZ (as per buster's suggestion) for OS and Program Files
1x2TB WD FAEX (for image files etc)
1GB PCI-e Nvidia
Corsair 550W
ASUS Mobo usb3.0 etc
That would cost me approx. 550 euros.
I'll let you know how it feels when it's set.