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 Post subject: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer drive?
PostPosted: December 28th, 2023, 11:03 
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Is it safe to generate the translator for this drive?
Model : WDC WD10SDZW-11UMGS0
Firmware : 01.01A01
Capacity : 1 000 GB (1 953 459 632)

Some of the data is readable but some other is not.
It doesn't seems like scratches or bad sectors but like translator problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
PostPosted: December 28th, 2023, 14:02 
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It's a SMR drive so no, it is a really bad idea.
Did you save and checked modules?

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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
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melvin wrote:
It's a SMR drive so no, it is a really bad idea.
Did you save and checked modules?


Yes.
All the modules are ok.
I run SA structure test didn't find any errors at all.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
PostPosted: December 28th, 2023, 16:45 
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So i guess your problem is not related to the translator. If you can read random LBA it's something else like bad sectors. But i didn't see the case so it's hard to guess based on "some data is readable but some other is not".

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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
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might be weak head...

and yes, it is a very unpleasant idea to regen tr.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
PostPosted: December 28th, 2023, 20:17 
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There are very large areas (large LAB range) which head 1 read very stable and very fast (the same areas on different new tasks) but some other large areas which it can't read any single sectors.

It feels like translator issue but as it seems even if it is translator issue I can't regenerate it so is there any other solution?


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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
PostPosted: December 29th, 2023, 3:27 
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Did you analyze T2?

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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
PostPosted: December 29th, 2023, 12:31 
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yes I analyze it and it seems in good condion as can be seen in the picture here


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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
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If it's original T2 you can compare it with rebuilded one. SMR are strange. I've seen a case where rebuilded T2 didn't read sector 0 and some other too. When rebuilded again, everything was fine. Data was ok too. I even showed it to ACE. But i doubt that this is your case. If it's original T2, i would say bad sectors, or as Pepe wrote, maybe weak head.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
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or defrag running in the bg, which can screw things up if writing is not disabled...
Melvin's problem with lba0 was probably caused by T2 being altered.
It would be interesting to see where the unreadable areas are located, i can check that if you can send me 183 and 190.
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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
PostPosted: December 30th, 2023, 16:25 
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pepe wrote:
or defrag running in the bg, which can screw things up if writing is not disabled...
Melvin's problem with lba0 was probably caused by T2 being altered.
It would be interesting to see where the unreadable areas are located, i can check that if you can send me 183 and 190.
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Hello,

Here are 183 and 190 inside the zip file.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
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Thx, pls also let me know some areas that are unreadable as well as some that are readable.
is the problem present on both heads or only H1?

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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
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pepe wrote:
Thx, pls also let me know some areas that are unreadable as well as some that are readable.
is the problem present on both heads or only H1?


Hi :)
The problem is under H1 only.
The rangaes which can't be read are:
H1:
65,245,380 - 65,364,368 length: 118,989
65,364,720 - 65,483,357 length: 118,638
65,483,709 - 66,489,440 length: 1,005,732
66,668,589 - 67,970,447 length: 1,301,859
70,585,728 - 73,459,511 length: 2,873,784
79,233,052 - 85,691,857 length: 6,458,806
92,121,821 - 95,135,867 length: 3,014,047
104,628,702 - 114,188,076 length: 9,559,375
121,014,108 - 124,660,451 length: 3,646,344


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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
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65,245,380 - 65,364,368 length: 118,989 H1 Zone 20
65,364,720 - 65,483,357 length: 118,638 H1 Zone 20
65,483,709 - 66,489,440 length: 1,005,732 H1 Zone 20
66,668,589 - 67,970,447 length: 1,301,859 H1 Zone 20
70,585,728 - 73,459,511 length: 2,873,784 H1 Zone 21
79,233,052 - 85,691,857 length: 6,458,806 H1 Zone 22-23
92,121,821 - 95,135,867 length: 3,014,047 H1 Zone 24
104,628,702 - 114,188,076 length: 9,559,375 H1 Zone 25-27
121,014,108 - 124,660,451 length: 3,646,344 H1 Zone 28

the above ranges pretty much cover zones 20-28 on H1, but there are some holes, which also belong to H1 but not listed:
65,483,358-65,483,708 H1 Zone 20
66,489,441-66,668,588 H1 Zone 20, small chunks
are these readable?

also, is the drive still able to read lower lbas from H1? 272,088-337,622 (H1 Zone 04) for example
If head was weak i would expect outer zones to be less readable... but the above is showing the opposite... :s

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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
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pepe wrote:

65,483,358-65,483,708 H1 Zone 20
66,489,441-66,668,588 H1 Zone 20, small chunks
are these readable?
also, is the drive still able to read lower lbas from H1? 272,088-337,622 (H1 Zone 04) for example
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Yes, all those were read very easy and fast.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
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pepe wrote:

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Hi Pepe,

Any ideas?


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 Post subject: Re: Is it safe to generate the translator for this Palmer dr
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not much at the moment. maybe if i could check it remotely...

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