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Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 4:27
by dobrevjetser
Hi guys,
I'm using the UDMA version to recover a Maxtor 6V160E0 sabre2.
All heads and modules ok, but data cannot be read, so i suspect translator corruption.
However, in the menu of udma, i cannot find 'translator regeneration'. Or has the sabre2 a dynamic translator?
Anyone has an idea how to solve this ?
Best regards,
Dobre
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 9:08
by darkforce1
in data extractor there is a opetion "virtual translator" you can use this. to get data.
DF

Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 9:16
by dobrevjetser
You mean when creating the heads map?
I tried that allready but the problem is that it uses the plist or other modules, none of which appears at checking the modules, as if they are not there

Dobre
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 9:21
by darkforce1
what happened to this hard disk Plist modules.
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 9:30
by dobrevjetser
Here is the report:
SA structure test
Selected family ........................... SABRE2
Model ..................................... Maxtor 6V160E0
Firmware .................................. VA111630
Serial .................................... V30571JG
Min. cylinder ............................. 932
Max. cylinder ............................. 99887
HDD configuration module
Id ........................................ 1F
Read ...................................... Yes
Header .................................... DISK
Checksum .................................. Error
Model ..................................... Maxtor 6V160E0
Serial number ............................. V30571JG
Max LBA ................................... 312581808
Head number ............................... 3
Head map .................................. 2 3 4
SA head map ............................... 2 3 4
Model1 ............................... Maxtor 6V160E0
Max LBA .............................. 320173056
Model2 ............................... Maxtor 6V160E0
Max LBA .............................. 312581808
Model3 ............................... Maxtor 6V150E0
Max LBA .............................. 293719104
Model4 ............................... Maxtor 6V120E0
Max LBA .............................. 240121728
Checking Calibration adaptives
Id ........................................ 1E
Read ...................................... Yes
Header .................................... SRV8ь
Checksum .................................. Ok
Checking User data adaptives
Id ........................................ 1E
Read ...................................... Yes
Header .................................... CR0T`
What immediately appears is:
Checking RZTbl
Error ..................................... Wrong Module Id "78"
Checking G-List
Error ..................................... Wrong Module Id "1B"
Checking RZTbl-PList
Error ..................................... Wrong map
What could cause this ???
It is like modules of sabre have the id of these from calypso??
Regards,
Dobre
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 10:27
by Doomer
dobrevjetser wrote:Here is the report:
SA structure test
Selected family ........................... SABRE2
Model ..................................... Maxtor 6V160E0
Firmware .................................. VA111630
Serial .................................... V30571JG
Min. cylinder ............................. 932
Max. cylinder ............................. 99887
HDD configuration module
Id ........................................ 1F
Read ...................................... Yes
Header .................................... DISK
Checksum .................................. Error
Model ..................................... Maxtor 6V160E0
Serial number ............................. V30571JG
Max LBA ................................... 312581808
Head number ............................... 3
Head map .................................. 2 3 4
SA head map ............................... 2 3 4
Model1 ............................... Maxtor 6V160E0
Max LBA .............................. 320173056
Model2 ............................... Maxtor 6V160E0
Max LBA .............................. 312581808
Model3 ............................... Maxtor 6V150E0
Max LBA .............................. 293719104
Model4 ............................... Maxtor 6V120E0
Max LBA .............................. 240121728
The CS shouldn't be wrong - but if drive inits - it does not matter
dobrevjetser wrote:What immediately appears is:
Checking RZTbl
Error ..................................... Wrong Module Id "78"
Checking G-List
Error ..................................... Wrong Module Id "1B"
Checking RZTbl-PList
Error ..................................... Wrong map
What could cause this ???
It is like modules of sabre have the id of these from calypso??
Regards,
Dobre
this is normal because these modules are absent on a SABRE2 drive
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 10:33
by Doomer
P-List is B7 module
but it has different structure and DE cannot use it

Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 10:37
by dobrevjetser
So no solution ???

Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 13:36
by Doomer
I guess not yet
Ask PC3000 guys
You can send drive for us
we can repair this with our own utilities
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 17:58
by dobrevjetser
I purchased UDMA about 1 month and 1 week ago.
I'm getting no replies any more from Ace.
Dobre
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 18:01
by Doomer
dobrevjetser wrote:I purchased UDMA about 1 month and 1 week ago.
I'm getting no replies any more from Ace.
Dobre
Have you tried to send e-mail directly ?
or ask you question on the PC3000 forum -
http://acelab.ru/pcTechSupport/forum/
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 25th, 2007, 18:15
by dobrevjetser
I emailed directly. They give only support for 1 month ...
Dobre
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 26th, 2007, 3:21
by prodata
I suggest you to read ALL module Groups and try to seacrh where is the PLIST and GLIST Module based on their Header. and search the corelation between RZTable PLISt and Glist...
Thanks
Aping
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 26th, 2007, 7:40
by coffeebean
ridiculous that ACE trying to read 1B for G-List - SABRE2
They know where G-List and others reside and they
know modules reference like 2C and one's mentioned by Doomer.
So why they don't include this for Sabre2 in UDMA version ??
Cause they ripping you off and they have this info for more than
a year and they cripple their programs...
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 26th, 2007, 10:39
by Doomer
coffeebean wrote:So why they don't include this for Sabre2 in UDMA version ??
they have completely different format
it is not so easy to add support of new modules
but not so hard, as well

Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 26th, 2007, 21:43
by Starling
It IDs correctly, so why do you think it's a translator problem?
Maybe it just needs good imaging?
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 27th, 2007, 4:25
by dobrevjetser
Imaging is not working or very slow with lots of bad sectors, and if you restart the process, it returns different good and bad sectors.
BUT: very strange, i connected the drive to another pc to give A-FF a try, and that one reported nothing should be done. Amazingly, i could open the drive in explorer, and copy files!
After about 20 minutes, the drive disappeared from the system.
Rebooting this morning showed the drive again, and i could copy all i needed for my client

No problem any more so, but what causes this??? Perhaps temperature sensitive preamp or head.
Regards,
Dobre
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: July 30th, 2007, 10:22
by Amarbir[CDR-Labs]
Wow,
The Last Answer Was Like

.Any Answers To This Mates
Re: Translator for Sabre2
Posted: August 2nd, 2007, 18:49
by hddguru
Sabre2 probably has another version of Defect-Management control.
