Brand question

[BlackST]

I still think that 90-95% of problems are user related: misuse, crap power supply, crap usb boxes, drop, shock, poking with electronics or firmware (yes they try to do it!), overheat. These failures are brand independent. With proper use, any drive should last 3-5 years or more!

[bnice]

Seagate sell new drives that have motor problems from new. Easy for seagate to fix by making drives with reliable motors. But this problem has been with seagate drives for years now. There is some bad descisions been made by seagate.

All the while people are now telling me seagate drives are utter cak and other such remarks. I tell them to beware, seagate also make maxtor drives.

[Dickstar]

The strange thing is, that Seagate is here known for being really reliable.

[Odiferous]

Don't trust any hard drive company (Sxxgxxe) with its own data recovery sub company. Spindle seizures have been very common over the years and they do nothing to prevent it. In my opinion, its Sxxgxxe's way of improving profits in a slow market. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why they are made to be complicated.

Hey, Dellguy - don't hold back! Seagate are producing rubbish drives, and they should be taken to court because I believe they are not fit for purpose.

The fact that they also own a data recovery company is a mockery, and I have to question the integrity of Seagate as a whole.

Duncan
Retrodata.co.uk

A little far fetched don't you think? Their DR business is worth what, 1% of their hard drive business? Increasing the failure rates artificially will end up hurting them as a whole because even a tiny drop in HDD sales is a heck of a lot of money...

No - not at all far fetched.

Look at the margin in manufacturing hard drives, and compare it with that of data recovery.

Makes you think, doesn't it?

In my opinion, Seagate need to be investigated; I feel they are not above board. And I am so positively certain of this that I challenge - and accuse - them directly.

If I had more time on my hands, I would consider instituting a class action lawsuit against them. And Apple Corporation as well.


Duncan Clarke
Retrodata.co.uk

[bnice]

The strange thing is, that Seagate is here known for being really reliable.

Where is here ?

[Dickstar]

The Netherlands. On forums and in the store where I work, WD and Seagate are considered the best drives.

[shahij]

SAMSUNG Drives are best for performance, reliable in Bangladesh I faced before.

[bnice]

The Netherlands. On forums and in the store where I work, WD and Seagate are considered the best drives.

Maybe importers should all get, imported seagte drives from your country. For all the other countries that have poor seagate drives.

[rameez]

Older seagate drives were reliable but not the new ones .

[bnice]

Older seagate drives were reliable but not the new ones .

Which.. pre 120gb

[rameez]

before 7200.7 .

[bnice]

I agree

[Deuterium]

Seagate Services now re-branded to i365?

I wonder why the name change?

[Dickstar]

So, WD is still a good chice? Their drives do really good in benchmarks. We sell a lot of the SE16 drive. I myself have the 750GB version of the SE16 and I'm quite happy with it.

[bnice]

Toshiba drives so far, doing well in this thread.

[pcimage]

Toshiba drives so far, doing well in this thread.

Yep, easy to recover from too.

(Even when I had one with the platter removed and replaced upside down, by the user. Complete with a full set of his finger prints. Dead PCB and bad spindle and bad heads.)

[bnice]

Oops maybe we shouldn't have said these things!. Soon everyone will buy toshiba drives.

[Daisy Woo]

Does anyone here remember the aptly named Quantum 'Fireball' drives with the blown vc chips ?

Early 2000's ?

It was this problem that blew Quantum out of the HDD market. The the infamous IBM DeskStar (aka Deathstar)? That took IBM out of the market, then there was the Fujitsu MPF/G series - bye bye Fujitsu desktop drives ..

'If we dont learn our history, we're doomed to repeat it.'

[thatdellguy]

How would we as the data recovery people be hurt by the mistakes of million/billion dollar companies? I look forward to more blunders. We don't produce the drives Daisy.

[hddguy]

All I hear lately is bad tal about seagates. All this stems from peoples inability to deal with certain failures. There was a time I used to hate MPG Fujitsus, then I figured out how to fix them. I used to hate head failure in AVVA Hitachis, then I figured out how to fix them. And just because they own a DR company does not mean they 'intentionally' produce bad drives. If this was the case the disks produced would NOT have 5 year warranty, and Im sure that more money is made via HDD sales than data recovery for Seagate.

I dont hear anyone slandering Toshibas for their common motor failures? I wonder why that is....