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 Post subject: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2008, 3:20 
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up to now the atola insight will be the deepspar killer

when this unit is for sale i think that most people will be buying the atola insight
over the deepspar systerm.

the specs blow away the deepspar right away

data extraction nice :)


if only they can lower the price cheaper ;)

what do others think

what the comfirm price anyone know yet


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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2008, 16:11 
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What is it about your post that annoys me most? Is it your appallingly-punctuated English or your misinformed opinions? You recently requested reviews of the Ninja vs. Deepspar, and you were offered honest, impartial advice. I'm guessing you haven't purchased either, so you're in no position to be judging products merely based on marketing. I've no doubt that the Atola will be very good, but unless you have first-hand experience, then speculation is worthless.

Atola has not been released yet, so it's impossible to compare something that's in Beta with a product that is tested and proven that has been on the market for a few years?

The Deepspar is simply an imaging unit, it requires that you repair the hard drive, be it a Service Area or mechanical problem. According to the Atola website, it covers all aspects of data recovery, so you cannot possibly compare the 2 products. It's like comparing a hammer to a JCB.

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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 23rd, 2008, 2:58 
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ck first thing is that your not very professional in this type of business
and your acting like a little kid

come back when you know more about the data recovery field

deepspar will get killed of by the atola insight when it release later on
better specs and does a lot more then any other recovery machines on the market


you more likely work for deepspar themself :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 23rd, 2008, 3:48 
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hi guys,
@ CK
hi my friend as you see i joined this forum too! :D

@ craig6928
i don't know you well, but i know Ck and i can really state he's "very professional" .. about the atola ... i own deepspar imager and i'm going to buy another unit; i don't know if atola will kill them , and above all, i don't mind!
I'll use the tools that fit most to my needs. To marry a company totally instead of other is quite stupid, i look at my business if i found a good tool i use it.

But this is only my humble opinion

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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 23rd, 2008, 3:52 
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Craig,

I must agree with CK.
Both machines have a totally different goal, so you cannot compare them.
I could use PC3K UDMA also for imaging, but i like more to have the deepspar doing it so i can use the features of UDMA to repair the drives.
Same for Atola.
It would be a shame to use such a tool just for imaging when it has many more possibilities.
Let the deepspar do the imaging and use Atola to repair the drives.

Thats my vision.

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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 23rd, 2008, 17:11 
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"come back when you know more about the data recovery field"

Craig, I'm not making this a personal crusade against you, but I believe you are fundamentally wrong, for the reasons I outlined in my original posting. From your other posts on this board, you haven't even got Media Tools, let alone Deepspar or a specialised imaging tool. If that's the case, then my business is light years ahead of yours, so don't tell ME I need to learn more. DR is a constant learning curve and I spend a lot of time and money on R&D and quality equipment. Whether Atola blasts Deepspar out of the water is somewhat irrelevant, given that it has a loyal following in the DR community and I'm guessing that they've made good money from it.

Atola promises to be an all-in-one solution which will be great if it "does what is says on the tin" but that's yet to be seen, while Deepspar images drives and does it very well. Compare like with like and don't comment on something you know nothing about without doing some real research.

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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 23rd, 2008, 19:11 
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Have they fixed the problem with Deepspar where the target has to be 5% larger than the source? I read this from a previous post.

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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 23rd, 2008, 20:45 
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craig6928 wrote:
ck first thing is that your not very professional in this type of business
and your acting like a little kid

come back when you know more about the data recovery field

deepspar will get killed of by the atola insight when it release later on
better specs and does a lot more then any other recovery machines on the market


you more likely work for deepspar themself :mrgreen:


Posts like these deserve a ban imho. Making an absurd thread is one thing, but insulting another member when he has done nothing to insult you is another. You clearly have absolutely no experience or knowledge about the field so don't try to pretend like you do. You have made plenty of posts on this forum showing your utter incompetence.

You are trying to compare two unrelated products. Imaging takes by far the longest out of any other procedure so you will need separate imaging tools from firmware repair tools. Last time I saw a rumored price for the Atola Insight it was 6,000... The deepspar is 3000-4000. Buying multiple atola insights just for imaging is not economical in any way you look at it. Also, the atola insight is limited to 30mb/s when imaging (i think that is what the YEC website said, I am not too certain however), which puts it behind the deepspar unit right away (for imaging purposes). It would only be somewhat interesting if it could image by heads, like the data extractor... If it can, and it is as configurable and quick at error handling as the deepspar unit then it might find a place in my lab, but otherwise... not for imaging.

You should be comparing your beloved Atola Insight (which no one has seen yet) to PC-3000 + Data extractor; at least you would be comparing it to related tools... Or even better the new portable (which no one has seen yet either I don' t think).

And yes Craig, I work for deepspar too. Along with all the people trying to give you honest advice in the other thread :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 23rd, 2008, 21:52 
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all i was saying was that the atola insight has a better option then the deepspar and does more

i suppose you want this subject banned because we talking about the deepspar system
which might hurt your sales


and as for banning this subject that means you got something to hide
free speech remember that


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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 23rd, 2008, 22:33 
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as i read that deepspar imaging is good for sure and it sure sounds good on paper


but when i dont see any well known reviews from companys or on the internet
and magzines

that gets me thinking at lot

why is this subject a close shop

yes it expensive and you get what you pay for end of the day

test before you buy would be great

the atola insight is going to offer more modules for data recovery yes its a beta stage
but when this product is finally release i bet most of the people hear will be buying it.


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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 23rd, 2008, 22:44 
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craig6928 wrote:
all i was saying was that the atola insight has a better option then the deepspar and does more

i suppose you want this subject banned because we talking about the deepspar system
which might hurt your sales


and as for banning this subject that means you got something to hide
free speech remember that


Actually, what I was commenting on are your insults towards CK. You are very entitled to your own opinion until you start insulting other members for having one of their own.

And again, you do not understand what I was trying to say. Language barrier I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 23rd, 2008, 22:56 
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Jinx wrote:
craig6928 wrote:
all i was saying was that the atola insight has a better option then the deepspar and does more

i suppose you want this subject banned because we talking about the deepspar system
which might hurt your sales


and as for banning this subject that means you got something to hide
free speech remember that


Actually, what I was commenting on are your insults towards CK. You are very entitled to your own opinion until you start insulting other members for having one of their own.

And again, you do not understand what I was trying to say. Language barrier I guess.



your joking i hope
first thing he jumps on my thread and insults me personel
i did nothing wrong
im asking other for advice and what they think about these products nothing more

he was the one who insulted me in the first place

for a start i know the queens english very well

and im more of a professional person then him slandering someone who asking
what they think of these products


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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 24th, 2008, 0:08 
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DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight; The battle of ego's

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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 24th, 2008, 3:56 
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craig6928 wrote:
as i read that deepspar imaging is good for sure and it sure sounds good on paper


but when i dont see any well known reviews from companys or on the internet
and magzines

that gets me thinking at lot

why is this subject a close shop

yes it expensive and you get what you pay for end of the day

test before you buy would be great

the atola insight is going to offer more modules for data recovery yes its a beta stage
but when this product is finally release i bet most of the people hear will be buying it.

Who knows who write these reviews and what loyalty, they have to the company.

Ask to demo a unit from a company. You could be testing a demo unit very soon. The only way you will get a conclusive test result, is the one you do yourself.


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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 24th, 2008, 4:52 
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@ thatdellguy
they didn't fix it, as in the manual is said that a 5% is needed to put the map of read sectors, errors... but if the drive is working you can use the "clone" option and drectly clone the drive to another without the need of that 5%

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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 24th, 2008, 11:39 
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This is like comparing a screwdriver and a hammer. You can knock nails in with a top of a screwdriver but the hammer is designed to do it a lot easier and quicker. My advice, use the hammer for nails and the screwdriver for screws.

To be honest this thread is bullshit. Who needs Deepspar and Atola when you can download SpinRite. (or is it called spazrite?) :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 24th, 2008, 12:18 
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Disk Compass is the new invention, coming to data recovery world by salvation.
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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 24th, 2008, 15:13 
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Nationwide DR wrote:
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To be honest this thread is bullshit.

Yes It is......so are the authors! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 24th, 2008, 15:24 
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you know most of the members here dont know how to act professional :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: DEEPSPAR VS The Atola Insight
PostPosted: July 24th, 2008, 16:14 
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shahij wrote:
Disk Compass is the new invention, coming to data recovery world by salvation.
Imaging Unit & more...


yes your right about the new invention coming

let say some members will slander this new product from salvation data


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