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| Author: | indhay [ June 5th, 2012, 2:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter reader? |
Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter reader for hard disk drives ? I need a device for direct reading from the plate, plus I am a IT technician, so I could use that device in the future... Please tell me all useful advices of how to recover the data. Thank you in advance to all that will respond. |
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| Author: | pcimage [ June 5th, 2012, 4:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
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| Author: | loki [ June 5th, 2012, 5:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
 thank you that was just what I needed to take my mind off things. Sorry but it doesnt work like that. Loki |
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| Author: | northwind [ June 5th, 2012, 8:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
Something like this? Attachment: disney_sketch_book_rectangular_serving_platter_P0000316791S0022T2.jpg [ 19.38 KiB | Viewed 41948 times ] |
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| Author: | loki [ June 5th, 2012, 8:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
northwind wrote: Something like this? Attachment: disney_sketch_book_rectangular_serving_platter_P0000316791S0022T2.jpg Can i have one? PLEASE  Indhay check out the beginners section here on the forum to get a better understanding sticky-important-topics-beginners-please-look-here-first-f16.html Loki |
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| Author: | Cris [ June 5th, 2012, 8:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
If you could buy such a device, it would most likely cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. https://services.seagate.com/signal_trace.aspx |
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| Author: | TaskManager [ June 5th, 2012, 14:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
I think I know where one may get the device.
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| Author: | indhay [ June 12th, 2012, 14:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
TaskManager wrote: I think I know where one may get the device. where is that? |
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| Author: | craig6928 [ June 13th, 2012, 2:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
yes there is a tool from germany that does this but you need a lot more skill and information on how to use it and is precision to use and tools cost a lot around around $40,000 secondhand the only company's that use these are the hard drive makers do you need one nope |
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| Author: | indhay [ June 14th, 2012, 0:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
craig6928 wrote: yes there is a tool from germany that does this but you need a lot more skill and information on how to use it and is precision to use and tools cost a lot around around $40,000 secondhand the only company's that use these are the hard drive makers do you need one nope waow...$40,000, fantastics price, thank you for ur information. do you know about "DeepSpar disk imager"? |
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| Author: | craig6928 [ June 14th, 2012, 8:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
yes a lot of members use this product but i like to use the Atola imager instead there some nice tools built into this every machine has it hit and miss deepspar is ok but it tied down to a pc system and is not standalone unit which if it was it would be great. this machine works in dos where the atola imager is windows based and connects up to any pc system the machine i was thinking of was a Spinstand by Guzik some data recovery use this for recovery. reading direct of the platters i seen one in action in the uk but it way beyond |
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| Author: | lcoughey [ June 14th, 2012, 9:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
craig6928 wrote: deepspar is ok but it tied down to a pc system and is not standalone unit True, but neither is the Atola Imager as it needs a separate Windows system to run the unit. With DDI, you have the choice to run directly from the console or from a network connected Windows system. Quote: which if it was it would be great. this machine works in dos The system uses DOS to boot, but is not controlled by the DOS environment when running. I'm not sure what OS the Atola system boots to, as it is locked down within its propriety box. If I were a to guess, I'd go with Linux. Quote: where the atola imager is windows based and connects up to any pc system DeepSpar has a Windows program (DRE) that will allow advanced control over the DDI systems via the network. As all the configuration information is stored with the clone or config drive on the DDI system, the user can control from any system. Also, when the clone is complete, it can be connected directly to a system and the configuration data and can still be accessed via the DRE application. Above all else, DDI is a little more expensive up front, but does not have any annual update/support fees, and provides free updates for the life of the product line. With the help of DRE, you can also export the DDI map to a DE map, should you need to complete the mirroring process with DE. Don't get me wrong, Atola Imager is not a bad product. But, it is still the little kid on the block and is still #3 in imaging products behind #1 DDI and #2 DE. |
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| Author: | drc [ June 14th, 2012, 9:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
craig6928 wrote: the machine i was thinking of was a Spinstand by Guzik some data recovery use this for recovery. I think you are confused |
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| Author: | lcoughey [ June 14th, 2012, 10:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
I have to change one of my statements in that DeepSpar is now charging an annual support/update fee for their latest DDI4 systems. I've also confirmed a few other things about the Atola system. 1. It is running Linux (CentOS) which has a much larger system overhead than the DOS environment used by DDI 2. It is a computer with a standard system board, CPU & RAM...just without kvm access. DeepSpar users build their own systems while Atola supplies the system hardware 3. Atola is limited to BIOS commands to the drive It is my understanding that Atola Imagers certainly do go a lot faster than DDI systems on healthy drives, as they default to a much larger block size of 4096 sectors vs 120. But, for unhealthy drives, you will have to drop Atola down to the smaller block sizes and this is where the overhead of the OS kills them and they find themselves mirroring as low as 10% the speed of a DDI system. At the end of the day, Atola is not a bad product and is certainly a lot better than most software imaging tools available. I certainly would recommend it over the Data Compass. But, if you are looking for solid professional data recovery imaging hardware, DeepSpar Disk Imager and PC3000 with Data Extractor are the best tools for the job. |
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| Author: | craig6928 [ June 15th, 2012, 6:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
drc wrote: craig6928 wrote: the machine i was thinking of was a Spinstand by Guzik some data recovery use this for recovery. I think you are confused Many universities, research and development organisations and some data recovery companies use the Guzik Spinstand for R&D however its ability to perform any commercial data recovery has never been proven. Some Data Recovery companies in the UK claim to perform data recovery using Spinstand. |
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| Author: | Eleg [ June 15th, 2012, 7:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
Quote: But, for unhealthy drives, you will have to drop Atola down to the smaller block sizes and this is where the overhead of the OS kills them and they find themselves mirroring as low as 10% the speed of a DDI system. I have never used the Atola Imager, so I can't comment on the relative performance of the Atola and the DDI. But it seems odd to me that the OS should be the reason for low performance when reading using small block sizes. I reckon as block sizes are lowered, and also bad media forcing retries, the HDD rotational delay will be the limiting factor. Averaging at the time for half a rotation, the rotational delay for a 7200 RPM HDD is 4.17mS, which in computing terms is half an eternity. Yes, the DDI is running almost bare metal, but even a tool running on a slightly more bloated OS (Linux) shouldn't have any problems handling an incoming small chunk of data every 4mS. My guess would be that the difference in performance for unhealthy drives could be reduced by tweaking parms on the Atola, possibly not trying to emulate the DDI parm setup. I can only speak for myself, but depending on whether I use tools I am well familiar with, or those I only use occasionally, there is a vast difference in results. Not to imply this is the reason for Luke's results, but this is always a challenge when comparing tools. To get slightly back on the topic of platter readers. Does anybody know what the devices listed below are? Current technology, or from the years gone by? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hard-Disk-Drive ... _818wt_920 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitutoyo-Digima ... _818wt_920 |
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| Author: | MANDR [ June 15th, 2012, 11:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
Ask Data Clinic where they got theirs from: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... 563&type=3 It allows them to remove the platters from hard drives and read the data independently. It is used in some of their "Advanced Data Recovery"
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| Author: | hddguy [ June 15th, 2012, 12:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
MANDR wrote: It allows them to remove the platters from hard drives and read the data independently. I highly doubt this... |
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| Author: | pcimage [ June 16th, 2012, 13:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
MANDR wrote: It allows them to remove the platters from hard drives and read the data independently. It is used in some of their "Advanced Data Recovery" With all due respect.... Bo110cks |
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| Author: | loki [ June 16th, 2012, 13:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anybody knows where I can buy a direct platter read |
pcimage wrote: MANDR wrote: It allows them to remove the platters from hard drives and read the data independently. It is used in some of their "Advanced Data Recovery" With all due respect.... Bo110cks not really any more to add to thatLoki |
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