Professional data recovery - What is this

[pinkST]

Google reports many "professional" data recovery companies, individuals and so on.

There's a lot of talk of unprofessional data recovery, but not a single person
identifies themselves as an "unprofessional data recovery engineer", or similar.

So, are you a professional data recovery engineer? - Seems like there are just a few - here.

What is a professional? Wiki helps a lot here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional

Then of course professionals do charge accordingly - if they are suitably QUALIFIED - that's rules
out almost everyone here, with the exception of the less than handful imho.

A search of data recovery companies reveals only professionals in the data recovery industry, so how
can one identify the non-professionals? Amount charged for data recovery? - again to Google..

I found this http://www.pcimage.co.uk/ (Professional Data recovery - From GBP99.00 !!!!!)
Assume say 3 hours work for this easy job - that's GBP33.33 per hour !!.

That infers that the "professional" is earning GBP11.11 per hour. (A gardener's wage )

As I said, just a handful of professionals here lot's of hobbyists and amateurs,
some better than others, but very very few professionals in the true sense of the word.

[hddguy]

So, are you a professional data recovery engineer? - Seems like there are just a few - here.

How are you able to judge people based on topics and posts that do not even begin to reflect a persons technical capacilities?

Then of course professionals do charge accordingly - if they are suitably QUALIFIED - that's rules
out almost everyone here, with the exception of the less than handful imho.

What exactly is your idea of 'QUALIFIED'?

how can one identify the non-professionals? Amount charged for data recovery? - again to Google..

I found this http://www.pcimage.co.uk/ (Professional Data recovery - From GBP99.00 !!!!!)

You try to give an example of a non-professional, by using a well known member with a good reputation of being a professional?

As I said, just a handful of professionals here lot's of hobbyists and amateurs,
some better than others, but very very few professionals in the true sense of the word.

This is an opinion based on your own un-professionalism and lack of experience and knowledge in this industry.


To be honest though, I do not quite understand he relevance of this topic. Maybe you had a bad experience in DR, or are trying to get some kind of response?

Maybe Trolling (Thanks to Alexii for this ) ?

Or maybe you are secretly in partnership with our buddy Frank?

[hddguy]

Also, wikipedia states this:

A professional is a member of a vocation founded upon specialised educational training.

If there is no 'suitable' training available, or no official certification, then this definition cannot apply.

[zebong]

I found this http://www.pcimage.co.uk/ (Professional Data recovery - From GBP99.00 !!!!!)
Assume say 3 hours work for this easy job - that's GBP33.33 per hour !!.

That infers that the "professional" is earning GBP11.11 per hour. (A gardener's wage )

Why not !!!

is the price that say if we are professional or not.

did you notice this

FROM

[MANDR]

A gardener on £11 per hour? Thats pretty good

[craig6928]

professional" data recovery companies


1) the top one is security of there personel information or photos

2) a company that is out there to help there clients and not bullshitting them and charging crazy prices

3) fast services in the recovery of there data.

4) a company that is using hardware for recovery and not software based



non-professionals? data recovery company which there are lots.

1) that use software base recovery only no hardware at all used

2) someone who bullshits the recovery price and cost

3) someone who things they can just swap over platters with out using anything

4) someone who has not spent big money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to get into data recovery in the first time.

5) someone who is out to steal personal information creditcard,paypal accounts,photos,

6) allso some companys will say we check the drive out but then hold the drive for ransom or they destroy it

7) someone who does not know what they are doing in the first place




pcimage

is a good guy for any data recovery work he knows what he is doing and allso has spent $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on the right equipment like other pro on the forum
have allso done

it depends on how long the recovery can take From GBP99.00

but when you say thats only 33.33 per hour

you are wrong as for less then 45 mins work in the recovery data the payment would be From GBP99.00
this could be less then 45 mins work in a recovery

so if you get 40 hard drives that good money you are making

you are not greedy your there to help people




it pi$$ me of where people will just setup a business and say wow we do professional recovery work
and they undercut the real pros in this type of work.
we can offer $64 recovering your information

the only reason why they are offering this is to steal any information on the hard drive
be it credit cards, paypal ,accounts

[pinkST]

Craig,

Reality is not what you think or write but what the majority around you think
and write. WIKI, I suggest, would be more representative of reality and in their
definition of a "professional" they list a qualification as foremost and imho absolutely
essential to be able to call oneself a professional.

Looking around here, I see the majority are not professionals and at GBP11.11/hr one
cannot be a professional even for one job.

I would like to see most here with a data recovery business identify themselves as
keen hobbyists or tinkerers. Clients would then not be misled by the self proclaimed
professionals, which most are not.

[zebong]

Craig,

Reality is not what you think or write but what the majority around you think
and write. WIKI, I suggest, would be more representative of reality and in their
definition of a "professional" they list a qualification as foremost and imho absolutely
essential to be able to call oneself a professional.

Looking around here, I see the majority are not professionals and at GBP11.11/hr one
cannot be a professional even for one job.

I would like to see most here with a data recovery business identify themselves as
keen hobbyists or tinkerers. Clients would then not be misled by the self proclaimed
professionals, which most are not.

if you point PcIMAGE , as not to be a PRO, you really do not know what are U talking about.

[poehere]

Craig,

Reality is not what you think or write but what the majority around you think
and write. WIKI, I suggest, would be more representative of reality and in their
definition of a "professional" they list a qualification as foremost and imho absolutely
essential to be able to call oneself a professional.

Looking around here, I see the majority are not professionals and at GBP11.11/hr one
cannot be a professional even for one job.

I would like to see most here with a data recovery business identify themselves as
keen hobbyists or tinkerers. Clients would then not be misled by the self proclaimed
professionals, which most are not.

If you are so keen on this one and keep looking at PCImage why do you now go there and see for yourself. A hobbist does not invest in millions of dollars worth of material, have expensive cleanroom, a rep from all members here offering his services and help. Instead of searching on google go and make a search in person and then you can see what you are talking about is pure crap.

[pinkST]

Hi Poehere, zebong,

True, I don't know pcimage, but I am sure you would agree that GBP99.00 for data recovery
is about as cheap as it gets, dirt cheap, for the UK that is.

Perhaps you guys are right. Do either of you also provide cheap data recovery?

Perhaps cheap and profesionalism are the same thing, to you at least, not to me though.

The focus of my post is : No qualifications implies no professional. Simple. If you could agree, super.

[poehere]

Hi Poehere, zebong,

True, I don't know pcimage, but I am sure you would agree that GBP99.00 for data recovery
is about as cheap as it gets, dirt cheap, for the UK that is.

Perhaps you guys are right. Do either of you also provide cheap data recovery?

Perhaps cheap and profesionalism are the same thing, to you at least, not to me though.

The focus of my post is : No qualifications implies no professional. Simple. If you could agree, super.

You are so far off and what are you trolling for? You are in the wrong place witht the wrong group of professionals who have worked together for years. Who are you to judge a professional. I am sure if you saw one you would not even know one. Prices on Web site does not reflect the quality of service or work ones does or the investment one has made in his job. Try visiting this factory and then open your mouth and talk about it again. Until then you have no right to comment on any work this person does or the prices he posts on his website. Not everyone who owns professional tools, does a top quality job, charges clients a small fortune to get their data back. Guess you got screwed bad on one of your disk recovered they saw you had too much pron on it and charged you triple on this one. Until you own your own business and do this work and have as much time and money invested into this field you have no room to judge others. People here work 18 hours a day and invest heavy into their material and solutions for repairing clients drives. So unitl you can fit these standards stop trolling and get out of here we are not interested in what you have to say. We know this person, his works, and his reputation on here you have no idea what you are talking about.

[enderst]

From GBP99.00 means starting point. Probably logical recovery.
Different recovery scenarios, different rates.

/me senses a troll

[craig6928]

Craig,

Reality is not what you think or write but what the majority around you think
and write. WIKI, I suggest, would be more representative of reality and in their
definition of a "professional" they list a qualification as foremost and imho absolutely
essential to be able to call oneself a professional.

Looking around here, I see the majority are not professionals and at GBP11.11/hr one
cannot be a professional even for one job.

where are you getting this bullshite saying GBP11.11/hr that all he makes a hour
if the job takes less then 45mins then the cost is 99 pound.


I would like to see most here with a data recovery business identify themselves as
keen hobbyists or tinkerers. Clients would then not be misled by the self proclaimed
professionals, which most are not.

listen for a start your going to pi$$ of most a lot of members by not saying they are not professional at all

when infact you dont no anyone on this forum.

for sure most members will decide never to help you out if you have any problems with drives or give advice.

as your trying to slander members of this forum.

for some unknown reason your trying to dig at pcimage as not being professional at all.

PcIMAGE is a professional data recovery person who knows a lot about data recovery business and flash driver recovery like most guys on this forum.
know about allso.
we are all here to help the pros in recovering data and that come across new problems with drives or helping each other to get the data of the drives.


they are not hobbyist or tinkerers they do this for a living.

they spend many hours and lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on new electronic equipment to keep up with the manufactures that produce new hard drive everyday.
and make it a lot harder for data recovery company to do the recovery.


if you dont think anyone on here is a professional you might as well never to post again

for sure no one is going to help you anymore with any problems you have

[hddguy]

Looking around here, I see the majority are not professionals and at GBP11.11/hr one
cannot be a professional even for one job.

Majority of DR cases require the use of specialised equipment, time consuming labour, lengthy recovery/imaging processes, and in these cases the use of this will need to be reflected in cost. Some cases require the use of non=specialist equipment and minimum resources, only knowledge and appropriate software. These cases do not tie up tools and time, and do not prevent other more difficult cases to be worked on.

are you saying that even these cases should be done at £400, £500 or £1000? Just to try to give a 'professional' perception?

What about good service, honest prices and as considerate a service as possible to a customer?

Each case will come at a different price, depending on the work required. If you cannot understand this concept now, you never will.

[pcimage]

Thanks for the support guys.

It seems that some people are never satisfied, right?

I DO offer a £99 service for piss-easy (to me) jobs like a simple s/w recovery or a straightforward TVS replacement for example, anyone who requests a quote for something that sounds more difficult and/or requiring the use of expensive equipment get given a more realistic quote. This £99 deal would also extend to medium-difficulty flash recoverys for students etc..

No recovery fees or inspection fees are charged until the price is agreed with the client, if the price is out of budget then the drive is simply returned. We do not have another "sister company" who can perform a "forensic recovery" for 5x the cost quoted!

We do of course get people phoning up and moaning that they want their clickiing 1Tb Seagate recovered for £99, but they are told very politely that this isn't going to happen and feel free to phone around for a better quote.

Amazing how people read what they want to read and the "FROM" word miraculously seems to have been filtered out!!! Maybe I should specify what you get for £99, but I bet that would also get by-passed by the filtering system so I'm probably wasting my time.

As far as not being professional is concerned then I'm not even going to get into that, ask the other DR companies worldwide that I do they cases they cannot do, end of story. PERIOD.

A £99 job that takes me 10mins works out at a good rate, you do the maths! Unfortunately we don't get many of them in

[mr_spokk]

As I said, just a handful of professionals here lot's of hobbyists and amateurs,
some better than others, but very very few professionals in the true sense of the word.

Someone that is a professional, is simply someone that is doing their work fulltime and not doing it as an amatuer.
"pinkST" that gives PERIOD another meaning
BTW if the price that PCImage offer seems to low for you, I bet he can make an exception and raise it a bit just for you!

Regards/ Bosse

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[HDD Spaz]

Hi Poehere, zebong,

True, I don't know pcimage, but I am sure you would agree that GBP99.00 for data recovery
is about as cheap as it gets, dirt cheap, for the UK that is.

Perhaps you guys are right. Do either of you also provide cheap data recovery?

Perhaps cheap and profesionalism are the same thing, to you at least, not to me though.

The focus of my post is : No qualifications implies no professional. Simple. If you could agree, super.

Well until Data Recovery is offered at Uni then all DR LABS around the world are run by non professionals.

[guru]

Even with a PHd it does not mean that you are wise. I have met many academics and Dr's (PHd's) in my short life and I can say that they are not all wise and some are even stuck thinking inside the box.

If I use pro wax and shine on my car will it be the best? Depends upon my hands and my wax style :O) Wax on Wax Off (c) Mr Mayagi

[HDD Spaz]

Even with a PHd it does not mean that you are wise. I have met many academics and Dr's (PHd's) in my short life and I can say that they are not all wise and some are even stuck thinking inside the box.

If I use pro wax and shine on my car will it be the best? Depends upon my hands and my wax style :O) Wax on Wax Off (c) Mr Mayagi

Well said 'Daniel Son!'

Who else agrees this is a shit and pointless thread?

[guru]

Thank you grasshopper