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HD Duplicator vs hardware imagers

Posted: April 13th, 2010, 9:21
by mattbrad2
How hoes HD Duplicator along with its power module compare to some of the hardware imagers such as Ninja Kaze, Data Compass, etc.
I know it doesn't compare to something like Deepspar or PC3k but it offers a 3 pass solutions to image defective drives and the power module can automate some of the need to sit by the image as its happening. For $550 total it seems to be a great deal but I wasn't sure how it compared. I wish it would do some sort of "data only" image but I think it only supports full image.

Re: HD Duplicator vs hardware imagers

Posted: April 13th, 2010, 9:25
by drc
It is actually pretty comparable to Deepspar pre-3.xx series. The hugely limiting factor is going to be the hardware it is running on. Some motherboards are magic and make it run like butter, but 98% of everything else will make it unusably buggy.

Re: HD Duplicator vs hardware imagers

Posted: April 13th, 2010, 11:15
by dick
Where did you find a supplier at that rate?
The Polish supplier quotes 1899 + 449zl .....about 821 USD (which must still be a great buy!)

@drc Which motherboard or chipset have you found to give you the best performance with this tool?

Re: HD Duplicator vs hardware imagers

Posted: April 13th, 2010, 11:23
by drc
Can't remember, it's been a while since I have used it.

Also it is unclear to me whether this tool is still supported. I haven't heard from the author in over a year

Re: HD Duplicator vs hardware imagers

Posted: April 13th, 2010, 11:27
by mattbrad2
dick wrote:Where did you find a supplier at that rate?
The Polish supplier quotes 1899 + 449zl .....about 821 USD (which must still be a great buy!)

@drc Which motherboard or chipset have you found to give you the best performance with this tool?


I got a quote the other day from Alexey @ CopyR software. It's $450 US plus $100 US for the power control device.

I'd also like to know what motherboard (or chipset) is ideal.

Re: HD Duplicator vs hardware imagers

Posted: April 13th, 2010, 18:03
by Amarbir[CDR-Labs]
drc wrote:It is actually pretty comparable to Deepspar pre-3.xx series. The hugely limiting factor is going to be the hardware it is running on. Some motherboards are magic and make it run like butter, but 98% of everything else will make it unusably buggy.
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Sir ,
you Have This Product How Is It ,I Use CopyR Sometimes and i Am amaged At What And how It Can Clone When All Other Software die

Re: HD Duplicator vs hardware imagers

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 10:34
by dick
mattbrad2 wrote:
dick wrote:Where did you find a supplier at that rate?
The Polish supplier quotes 1899 + 449zl .....about 821 USD (which must still be a great buy!)

@drc Which motherboard or chipset have you found to give you the best performance with this tool?


I got a quote the other day from Alexey @ CopyR software. It's $450 US plus $100 US for the power control device.

I'd also like to know what motherboard (or chipset) is ideal.

Well all the motherboard chipset info is here on the forum supplied by the software author Alexey himself!

Procedures for cloning SATA and PATA hard drives
http://forum.hddguru.com/procedures-for-cloning-sata-and-pata-hard-drives-t7850.html
ยท Choosing the motherboard and cables
Different chipsets use different memory organization schemes and have different temporal data transfer parameters, therefore cloning speeds will differ even under the same cloning settings.

The following cloning speeds were achieved when using the Dublicator
(Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 as the source hard drive and Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 40Gb ATA/133 as the destination hard drive):
for the SiS655 chipset 900-1200 Mb/min
for the i865PE chipset 1900-2300 Mb/min
for the NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 chipset 2200-2300 Mb/min

(Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 as the source hard drive and Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 120Gb SATA as the destination hard drive):
for the SiS655 chipset 1200-1400 Mb/min
for the i865PE chipset 2100-2300 Mb/min
for the NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 chipset 2300-2400 Mb/min

The top transfer rate when using a cable with 40 conductors is Ultra DMA 33, i.e. 33 Mb/sec. With an 80-conductors cable the Ultra DMA 66, Ultra DMA 100 and Ultra DMA 133 data transfer rates are also supported. SATA cables of equal length have essentially identical DTR characteristics

Re: HD Duplicator vs hardware imagers

Posted: May 11th, 2010, 8:13
by El'Pinio
The new power supply controller is already in beta testing. Work in progress on the program manager for DOS. Tile is a Polish production. It is much more extensive and secure.
DMDE is able to handle the PWRCTRL. Already in beta DMDE is able to set scripts on how to read the disk.

Re: HD Duplicator vs hardware imagers

Posted: June 6th, 2010, 14:17
by dick
Hi El'Pinio,

Can you give us any more info on the power supply controller?
If you don't want to discuss here could you link us to a site where we can find more information. How much will the power controller cost?
I am trying out the Dmde application and I have to say it really is an intelligent and usefull tool!

Re: HD Duplicator vs hardware imagers

Posted: June 6th, 2010, 14:29
by El'Pinio
And what exactly would you want to know?
This is a controller on the processor is able to control the Amp 12V and 5V.
Obviously - On Off.
Is also able to detect the controller com.
It has short circuit protection fuses and overload (reducing Amp)
Curent reads online Volt 5V and 12V

usage : pwr_ctrl COMx command
COMx - serial port name ( ex. COM1 )
commands:
P_ON - turn on HDD power
P_OFF - turn off HDD power
STATUS - show power status ( ON/OFF )
VOLT_5 - show 5V voltage
VOLT_12 - show 12V voltage
CUR_5 - show 5V current
CUR_12 - show 12V current
LIM_5=x.xx - set 5V current limit LIM_12=x.xx - set 12V current li
mit

Work is continuing on windowed program.

Also created is precisely to help DMDE commands for control of the snap.

Unfortunately, lack of time and the day has only 24 hours a pity.
If it is 48 hours a day, it may be faster to all managed to do.