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especially as the site the link on ERD page to the company they say they partner with http://www.atet.it/ goes to a nonworking page

hi guys,
if anyone is in need to know more about them I'd like to share my experience.
This company is based Italy and not too far from me, about 3 months ago they asked me to become a beta tester for their DR tool, and i accepted :mrgreen:

What i found is that actually working in AHCI is a lot better than UDMA not only for speed but for stability and drive errors management (the port reset is great!).
The price list they gave me is more or less aligned with pc3k with DE for both firmware and cloner utilities and i considered it worthy after having used it for a while.
As all the tools have some pros and some cons, about password unlock i unlocked ARM hitachi and WD Royl drives without the need of any forensic version.
As i don't want this post to become an advertisement if you are interested on further opinions (both for pros and cons) or screenshot ... just let me know

Had they not giving you a unit to test, would you choose to buy their unit over an updated PC3K UDMAe or PC3K Express?

Does it have all the power of PC3K? When you are comparing to PC3K, which version of PC3K are you comparing?

Also, is the PCIe card a custom build or just a generic card, as it looks like from the photo on their website?

Head map on F3 seagate is not supported yet with this tool, but it will be from next update on April 2014

* the refund will be grant for flight,hotel, meals and considered as a further discount to add to actual promotions for this single purchase, the maximum amount of refund changes according to buyer's country:

Italy up to 400,00 euros
Europe (except Italy) up to 600,00 euros
Others up to 800,00 euros

I just knew there had to be some catch to the "refund".

Quote:

fzabkar wrote:

I just knew there had to be some catch to the "refund".

Quote:

I don't think that's a "catch" as such, as far as I understand it they will further discount the cost of the tool purchase to the tune of your valid expenses.

I think they mean "granted" rather than "grant" IMHO.

pcimage wrote:

fzabkar wrote:

I just knew there had to be some catch to the "refund".

Quote:

I read "grant" as "rebate".

AIUI, there is an initial discount of 20% which every attendee receives, while the "grant" is an additional discount subject to the attendee's country of origin, not a total refund of travel expenses.

Author:	pclab [ February 25th, 2014, 8:46 ]
Post subject:	EDR tools
Hi Does anyone knows/works with EDR tools? How are they? Support, Upgrades, etc? The website is: www.edrtools.eu Thanks

Author:	HaQue [ February 25th, 2014, 18:52 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
especially as the site the link on ERD page to the company they say they partner with http://www.atet.it/ goes to a nonworking page

Author:	fzabkar [ February 25th, 2014, 19:15 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
HaQue wrote: especially as the site the link on ERD page to the company they say they partner with http://www.atet.it/ goes to a nonworking page Here is Google's cached text-only version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... w.atet.it/ Here is the latest capture at the Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/201305280210 ... w.atet.it/

Author:	thatdellguy [ February 26th, 2014, 7:14 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
That site and its tools make SD look good. You should buy it Spildit.

Author:	HaQue [ February 26th, 2014, 7:36 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
You have to admit, the bigger collection of tools on the shelf, the better it looks But you would think that if you made these tools, you would have at least 1 employee that reads these forums, and that they could add to the discussion and say something about their site and tools. If not then they cant be in touch with HDD Recovery as a whole. I realise that this forum is not the be all and end all of HDD recovery, and that they aren't required to even respond, but any serious company should have a Google alert type thing happening on their name and some terms to see where they can add positive spin to themselves. as always, exceptions to this abound.

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Author:	lcoughey [ February 26th, 2014, 9:23 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
They cost just as much as PC3K and have no reviews. I offered to test and review a unit for them, but they aren't interested. I cannot speak for the rest of you, but I have no intention of spending close to $10K on a tool that might do what I know PC3K can do.

Author:	irs [ February 27th, 2014, 11:37 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
hi guys, if anyone is in need to know more about them I'd like to share my experience. This company is based Italy and not too far from me, about 3 months ago they asked me to become a beta tester for their DR tool, and i accepted What i found is that actually working in AHCI is a lot better than UDMA not only for speed but for stability and drive errors management (the port reset is great!). The price list they gave me is more or less aligned with pc3k with DE for both firmware and cloner utilities and i considered it worthy after having used it for a while. As all the tools have some pros and some cons, about password unlock i unlocked ARM hitachi and WD Royl drives without the need of any forensic version. As i don't want this post to become an advertisement if you are interested on further opinions (both for pros and cons) or screenshot ... just let me know

Author:	lcoughey [ February 27th, 2014, 12:11 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
irs wrote: hi guys, if anyone is in need to know more about them I'd like to share my experience. This company is based Italy and not too far from me, about 3 months ago they asked me to become a beta tester for their DR tool, and i accepted What i found is that actually working in AHCI is a lot better than UDMA not only for speed but for stability and drive errors management (the port reset is great!). The price list they gave me is more or less aligned with pc3k with DE for both firmware and cloner utilities and i considered it worthy after having used it for a while. As all the tools have some pros and some cons, about password unlock i unlocked ARM hitachi and WD Royl drives without the need of any forensic version. As i don't want this post to become an advertisement if you are interested on further opinions (both for pros and cons) or screenshot ... just let me know Had they not giving you a unit to test, would you choose to buy their unit over an updated PC3K UDMAe or PC3K Express? Does it have all the power of PC3K? When you are comparing to PC3K, which version of PC3K are you comparing? From what I can tell, the price difference is negligible, so it comes down to functionality, reliability and support. Also, is the PCIe card a custom build or just a generic card, as it looks like from the photo on their website?

Author:	irs [ February 27th, 2014, 12:56 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
Hi Luke, i didn't buy pc3k express as looked too much as a normal UDMA with more channels and higher price .... so i can compare only with UDMA, my pc3k is 5.6.6 ( i think should be the latest ). Quote: Had they not giving you a unit to test, would you choose to buy their unit over an updated PC3K UDMAe or PC3K Express? yes i received a test set for 1 month and then i bought it, about the purchase you said right "updated PC3K" ... actually i'm more confident on this new tool as it's a newer technology than Ace's and i already received 2 updates (as beta) with good improvements. I liked the policy of free updates and the fact that they listened at me for wishlists, actually the support is good and fast but i understand that they are quite new so i not possible to judge. Quote: Does it have all the power of PC3K? When you are comparing to PC3K, which version of PC3K are you comparing? Is hard to compare as they are different and sometimes is better sometimes less i try to clarify, i like a lot the cloner utility as is fast even to create the sector maps for unread or error sectors i have to say that is more like a DDI 4 than PC3K DE. About firmware utilities has some features i like, i think WD royl support is better: through support they could rebuild ROM modules on drives with overlays mod "NOT INIT" the speed on tracks reading is great (very much faster than PC3K), speed apart the other options are more or like like Ace's. They lack a bit on head map in RAM for newer families, sometimes it didn't work. About Seagate i could work with a good list of system files (also volumes not yet managed by pc3k ) 3 months ago and i could work on Lombard drives (the 4tb with no com port full access .. they opened it), on the other side here also they lack for head map editing. as i told you i'm confident about updates. Quote: Also, is the PCIe card a custom build or just a generic card, as it looks like from the photo on their website? i think is quite difficult to me to tell you ... i can see that before windows booting there's an output with the name of the controller (something like "EDR Tool controller...") but i think is better to ask them about. I'm sorry if i wrote such a long post but i hope this answered your questions let me know

Author:	michael chiklis [ March 16th, 2014, 16:17 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
Head map on F3 seagate is not supported yet with this tool, but it will be from next update on April 2014

Author:	guru [ March 19th, 2014, 3:26 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
Guess it takes time to rip commands from PC3000 UDMA

Author:	michael chiklis [ May 26th, 2014, 10:37 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
If you go to "Polo tecnologico di Pordenone" (Italy) on 24th of June 2014 you can purchase F.L.A.M.E EDR tools (firmware utilities and copier) with 20% discount. If you purchase it, they will refund the money you spend for the travelling (train, plane, hotel etc). On 24th of June at the "Polo tecnologico di Pordenone", will shown you how to use the tools for free, then you can think to buy or not, but if you don't buy they will not refund you the travelling cost. More details here: http://www.edrtools.eu/open_day_2014.html

Author:	guru [ May 26th, 2014, 15:28 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
So is it supported now? michael chiklis wrote: Head map on F3 seagate is not supported yet with this tool, but it will be from next update on April 2014

Author:	michael chiklis [ May 26th, 2014, 20:02 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
Yes guru, now head map on F3 is supported.

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Author:	pclab [ May 30th, 2014, 6:41 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
Nice idea the open day...

Author:	fzabkar [ May 30th, 2014, 14:53 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
I just knew there had to be some catch to the "refund". Quote: * the refund will be grant for flight,hotel, meals and considered as a further discount to add to actual promotions for this single purchase, the maximum amount of refund changes according to buyer's country: Italy up to 400,00 euros Europe (except Italy) up to 600,00 euros Others up to 800,00 euros

Author:	pcimage [ May 30th, 2014, 15:40 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
fzabkar wrote: I just knew there had to be some catch to the "refund". Quote: * the refund will be grant for flight,hotel, meals and considered as a further discount to add to actual promotions for this single purchase, the maximum amount of refund changes according to buyer's country: Italy up to 400,00 euros Europe (except Italy) up to 600,00 euros Others up to 800,00 euros I don't think that's a "catch" as such, as far as I understand it they will further discount the cost of the tool purchase to the tune of your valid expenses. I think they mean "granted" rather than "grant" IMHO.

Author:	fzabkar [ May 30th, 2014, 15:53 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
pcimage wrote: fzabkar wrote: I just knew there had to be some catch to the "refund". Quote: * the refund will be grant for flight,hotel, meals and considered as a further discount to add to actual promotions for this single purchase, the maximum amount of refund changes according to buyer's country: Italy up to 400,00 euros Europe (except Italy) up to 600,00 euros Others up to 800,00 euros I don't think that's a "catch" as such, as far as I understand it they will further discount the cost of the tool purchase to the tune of your valid expenses. I think they mean "granted" rather than "grant" IMHO. I read "grant" as "rebate". AIUI, there is an initial discount of 20% which every attendee receives, while the "grant" is an additional discount subject to the attendee's country of origin, not a total refund of travel expenses.

Author:	pcimage [ May 30th, 2014, 16:52 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
fzabkar wrote: pcimage wrote: fzabkar wrote: I just knew there had to be some catch to the "refund". Quote: * the refund will be grant for flight,hotel, meals and considered as a further discount to add to actual promotions for this single purchase, the maximum amount of refund changes according to buyer's country: Italy up to 400,00 euros Europe (except Italy) up to 600,00 euros Others up to 800,00 euros I don't think that's a "catch" as such, as far as I understand it they will further discount the cost of the tool purchase to the tune of your valid expenses. I think they mean "granted" rather than "grant" IMHO. I read "grant" as "rebate". AIUI, there is an initial discount of 20% which every attendee receives, while the "grant" is an additional discount subject to the attendee's country of origin, not a total refund of travel expenses. Well, as I understand it, a 20% initial discount, plus travel expenses capped at €400/600/800 depending on country of origin (read distance to travel), which I don't think is unreasonable. I presume this is to prevent someone flying first class and staying at 5* hotels and claiming €5,000 as travelling expenses. I would also assume that evidence of travel expenses would have to be produced to claim the deductions.

Author:	fzabkar [ May 30th, 2014, 17:17 ]
Post subject:	Re: EDR tools
@pcimage, I wouldn't expect any such reimbursement from any vendor, so the fact that attendees get any rebate at all is a generous gesture, IMO. It's just that Michaels' post is a little misleading because it gives rise to the same unreasonable expectations that you have suggested.