HD Duplicator :

[Spildit]

Hi.

Does anyone still uses the old HD Duplicator ?

What is the latest build ? C240 ?

Looks like copyrsoft.com no longer exists.

Assuming that i would be using "software only" that is, without the HDDup power Controller, how good would this software be ? Better than Prosoft Media Tools ? Does it handle well drives with bad sectors ?

[Tomset]

Irrelevant.
Rarely a new drive them to be deducted.
Only for old drives will suit
Оptimal use - DE.

[Spildit]

What about "software only" clonning tools (for people without lots of money or end users).
What would be best HD Duplicator (software only without the power unit) or Prosoft Media Tools ?

[Tomset]

What would be best HD Duplicator (software only without the power unit) or Prosoft Media Tools ?

Еquivalent.
Only for very mild cases.

[dick]

Split give the earlier version dos app Copr.dma a try out. It works on drives up to 128gbs. It doesn't have very many options but gives an idea of how well HD Duplicator would work. The full version of Hd dup with a power board would be a really good tool for cloning (better than media Tools for cloning) though it isn't available to buy these days. More modern cloning devices do the same and a lot better with the data extraction and clone by file capabilities.

[Spildit]

Split give the earlier version dos app Copr.dma a try out. It works on drives up to 128gbs. It doesn't have very many options but gives an idea of how well HD Duplicator would work. The full version of Hd dup with a power board would be a really good tool for cloning (better than media Tools for cloning) though it isn't available to buy these days. More modern cloning devices do the same and a lot better with the data extraction and clone by file capabilities.

I do have a C240 build of HDD Duplicator (licensed) but i don't have the power board, so i was just trying to figure out if it's better or worse than the other software based sollutions.

Thanks for the answers.

[dick]

You can make a power board. I have previously posted the schematic but you also need the file to programme in to the Atmel. One of the members here has it and once offered it though I can't remember his name. If you do a search you might find him. I didn't bother doing it myself because I don't have a full licensed copy of the software.

[dick]

The power board should probably work with the Pro version of Dmde as well. Can somebody confirm that?

[Spildit]

You can make a power board. I have previously posted the schematic but you also need the file to programme in to the Atmel. One of the members here has it and once offered it though I can't remember his name. If you do a search you might find him. I didn't bother doing it myself because I don't have a full licensed copy of the software.

I do have a full licensed copy of Build C240.
If i manage to find the ROM to write on the Atmel and the Schematic for the power board i would most likely be able to do the power board myself, as i do have a EEProm programmer, but wouldn't that be PIRACY ?
At any rate i don't think they would sell those power board / software anymore.

I still didn't "play" with it, but i can't run it under windows XP (complains about needing pure dos). Works fine on a windows 98 VM even on windows 98 enviroment.

Of course on my XP it doesn't run so it doesn't detect my PC3K card and i doubt it will under DOS (no drivers).

Making a power board sounds fun.

I didn't even knew that DMDE would use a power board as well ....

[dick]

You could ask the programme author for the bin file by email. If you are lucky he might respond to you here.

Dmde Pro has a modifiable script that runs in conjunction with the power board.

[Spildit]

You could ask the programme author for the bin file by email. If you are lucky he might respond to you here.

Dmde Pro has a modifiable script that runs in conjunction with the power board.

Ok, thanks !

[Tomset]

Spildit,
Listen to the wise.

Not wasting your time on HDD Duplicator.
Use as is, when it allows.
If you want to DR, you still have to buy a DE or equivalent
In general, there is no sense in DR when there is no money.
This is a very costly business.
The development of your business will be delayed for decades without normal equipment. 10 years will live fasting, only investing in development.

Buying DE allow you to directly make a qualitative leap in a short time and quickly recoup the costs.

[devde]

http://www.instructables.com/id/Control ... /?ALLSTEPS

[Spildit]

http://www.instructables.com/id/Control-any-AC-device-via-PC-RS232-or-USB/?ALLSTEPS

Thanks !

[Spildit]

Spildit,
Listen to the wise.

Not wasting your time on HDD Duplicator.
Use as is, when it allows.
If you want to DR, you still have to buy a DE or equivalent
In general, there is no sense in DR when there is no money.
This is a very costly business.
The development of your business will be delayed for decades without normal equipment. 10 years will live fasting, only investing in development.

Buying DE allow you to directly make a qualitative leap in a short time and quickly recoup the costs.

I'm not wasting my time with HD Dup, i'm just trying to figure out what i can do with it.
I do have *some* DR tools (including hardware cloning ones) but i was thinking that HD Dup could be a "cheaper" alternative for end-users trying to clone the drives with bad sectors, that is, if it they were still selling it.
Of course that it doesn't allow for all that fancy stuff like cloning with disabled heads and do head map on ram or extract the files by file allowing to know what fileas are affected by the bad sectors, etc .... but i think it would still be a sollution better then nothing at all.

Best regards and thanks for your answer and concearn.

[thatdellguy]

What is the latest build ? C240 ?

C242.

[Tomset]

Spildit,

Of course that it doesn't allow for all that fancy stuff like cloning with disabled heads and do head map on ram or extract the files by file allowing to know what fileas are affected by the bad sectors, etc .... but i think it would still be a sollution better then nothing at all.

This is partly true.
But just think.
Why should need the customer to clone the error condition?
If your client does not know which files he had lost.
In fact you shift a great job of checking thousands of files on the client.
You will spoil your reputation by performing a cheap job.

[Spildit]

What is the latest build ? C240 ?

C242.

Ok, thanks.

[fzabkar]

Does anyone still uses the old HD Duplicator ?

What is the latest build ? C240 ?

Looks like copyrsoft.com no longer exists.

The Wayback Machine is a good resource for defunct web sites.

http://web.archive.org/web/200809080622 ... rsoft.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/200901310816 ... rsoft.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/201405170842 ... rsoft.com/

[maximus]

If only a software option to clone a drive, why not use ddrescue under Linux with my passthrough patch?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ddrutil ... h%20patch/

The patch allows use of either SCSI or ATA read commands to be sent instead of the normal kernel reads. With ATA it currently reads using DMA, and according to the documentation that I have found it will always use the highest speed available. And ddrescue 1.19 has enough options to be totally controllable if you know what you are doing. Best of all both ddrescue and my patch are open source and free.

I just recently added the ability to my patch for it to exit if any sort of abnormal error happened that would possibly require the hard drive to be power cycled to continue. If you had the ability to control a device that could turn power off and on, a script could be made to cycle the power when ddrescue exited prematurely.

Just food for thought.

Scott


PS
I am currently working on something that could be considered the equivalent of MHDD only for Linux. It differs in one major way as it is all script based, meaning that all functions are run by script. This means that anyone with some simple programming ability will be able to modify existing functions or create their own. It can also send 48 bit commands, which I am not sure if MHDD can even do. Plus it will have a bit better documentation Unfortunately it will not be open source, but instead will be shareware (somewhat limited free version with the option for a paid full version). The paid version would actually be capable of cloning a drive and dealing with errors, although it is not at all optimized for that and would likely be slower than dedicated cloning software. I am hoping to release a free beta pre-release within a few weeks.