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Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 16th, 2022, 12:35
by lcoughey
Anyone out there able to reconstruct what seems to be a damaged NWFS volume?
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 16th, 2022, 12:42
by pepe
hm, i thought these can only be found under several hundred meters of limestone sediments...
i recall i had to run novell and mount the image up in it, then copy the data out through the network. I still have a VM somewhere...
pepe
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 16th, 2022, 13:15
by fzabkar
I have Netware setup diskettes ... somewhere.
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 16th, 2022, 16:22
by Lardman
fzabkar wrote:I have Netware setup diskettes ... somewhere.
Probably with your wordstar disks and your spare box of bnc's.
This any use Luke?
http://www.runtime.org/captain-nemo.htm
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 16th, 2022, 16:39
by fzabkar
I found them (DR DOS, Novell, OpenDOS). I tried to email them, but they were rejected by Luke's AV filter.
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 19th, 2022, 12:12
by lcoughey
I received them after I manually permitted the email with the attachments through. However, a working copy of Novell or any program that only works with healthy file systems don't appear to be of much help. This is pretty much a case of a corrupt file system.
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 19th, 2022, 13:35
by lcoughey
I think I might be having better luck when moving my destriped clone to an older Windows 7 system. Time will tell.
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 19th, 2022, 15:25
by fzabkar
The software I've provided is Netware Lite, which is peer to peer. I thought it may have been able to handle NWFS, but I'm probably wrong.
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 19th, 2022, 15:51
by fzabkar
There used to be a way to mount an NWFS volume in Linux, but Novell killed it with litigation.
https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Filesystems-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.17https://lwn.net/1999/0715/a/NwFs.html
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 27th, 2022, 9:14
by DR-Kiev
Very very old version of UFS (old design) 3 or 5 version was with support Novell OS .
Try that and check somewhere on change logs. Recent version doesn't support it.
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 27th, 2022, 15:47
by lcoughey
DR-Kiev wrote:Very very old version of UFS (old design) 3 or 5 version was with support Novell OS .
Try that and check somewhere on change logs. Recent version doesn't support it.
I tried 3.14, 3.19 & 5.20, none of which seem to have any VMFS options. Current version of UFS has NWFS support, but only for perfectly healthy file systems. Though, there appears to be an issue that existed back at version 5 and still exists now where UFS is pointing to the wrong start sector for the NWFS partition. While other programs like R-Studio and WinHex don't have NWFS support, they correctly interpret the partition start. Unfortunately, due to current circumstances in Ukraine, this falls as a low priority with the UFS team at the moment...which makes perfect sense.
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 28th, 2022, 7:32
by michael chiklis
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 29th, 2022, 7:05
by einstein9
@lcoughey
Novell NetWare disks helps you? v2.xxx
to build a proper FS? instead of corrupt file system
or UnixWare disks as well
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 29th, 2022, 10:42
by lcoughey
I fail to see where they have any mention of Netware file system support.
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: December 30th, 2022, 14:22
by dick
This is not my area of expertise but might this be of any use at all?
https://www.nucleustechnologies.com/Dow ... ftware.phpGood luck!
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: January 4th, 2023, 19:49
by moriskod
There used to be some tools out there for pulling data from Novell volumes.. can't remember the name off hand. I think you might be able to use a running Novell server and do a vrepair on the volume and possibly mount it.
Re: Novell Netware NWFS
Posted: January 6th, 2023, 12:52
by moriskod
Oh yeah, I saw something called "Captain Nemo" I think that has NWFS capabilities? I thought about trying it, I have a few old Netware drives around I could test.