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Informations about DC HC520 12To ?

Posted: February 7th, 2023, 11:32
by qwrty
Hello everyone,

I bought some disks from two different ressellers, everythings works fine, but I have some question regarding those disks:

Code:
     Manuf.       Model               Serial                Interface       Capacity  Type  Firmware 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1) HGST         HUH721212ALE601     [REMOVE]              SATA            12000 GB  HDD   LEGNX3Q0 
        HGST Firmware: LEOHX3Q0
  2) HGST         HUH721212ALE601     [REMOVE]              SATA            12000 GB  HDD   LEGNX3Q0 
        HGST Firmware: LEOHX3Q0
  3) HGST         HUH721212ALE601     [REMOVE]              SATA            12000 GB  HDD   LEGNX3Q0 
        HGST Firmware: LEOHX3Q0
  4) HGST         HUH721212ALE601     [REMOVE]              SATA            12000 GB  HDD   LEGNX3Q0 
        HGST Firmware: LEOHX3Q0
  5) HGST         HUH721212ALE601     [REMOVE]              SATA            12000 GB  HDD   LEGNX3Q0 
        HGST Firmware: LEOHX3Q0
  6) HGST         HUH721212ALE604     [REMOVE]              SATA            12000 GB  HDD   LEGNW9G0 
        HGST Firmware: LEGNW9G0
  7) HGST         HUH721212ALE604     [REMOVE]              SATA            12000 GB  HDD   LEGNW9G0 
        HGST Firmware: LEGNW9G0
  8) HGST         HUH721212ALE604     [REMOVE]              SATA            12000 GB  HDD   LEGNW9G0 
        HGST Firmware: LEGNW9G0


I'm wondering:
- Why firmware is different between "Firmware" column and the HGST Firmware statement for the HUH721212ALE601 model ? (GN mean Generic and OH mean OEM ?)
Does this mean previous user flashed them with a generic firmware ?

- HUH721212ALE604 firmware seems to be up to date, but I see a firmware update for HUH721212ALE601 => LEGNX9U0
Can I update those disks with this firmware ?

- HUH721212ALE601 are SED on the paper: data-sheet-ultrastar-dc-hc520
But, hdparm seems report that the disk is not actually encrypting data (same result for all five disks):
Code:
hdparm -I /dev/sda

Security:
        Master password revision code = 65534
                supported
        not     enabled
        not     locked
        not     frozen
        not     expired: security count
                supported: enhanced erase


What do you think ?

- Helium Level is different between 601 et 604:
All 601 report

22 Helium_Level 0x0023 100 100 025 Pre-fail Always - 100


604 report:

22 Helium_Level 0x0023 100 100 025 Pre-fail Always - 6553700


Hope some hdd guru like napalm_atx or E123 could help me to figure out with all my questions :lol:

Thank you !

Re: Informations about DC HC520 12To ?

Posted: February 7th, 2023, 16:01
by fzabkar
6553700 = 0x00640064 -> 0x0064 / 0x0064 -> 100 / 100

The raw value looks more logical in hexadecimal. We can see that it consists of two 16-bit words, each reflecting a helium level of 100%.

Can you dump the drive's 512-byte Identify Device data block with a tool such as CrystalDiskInfo?

Re: Informations about DC HC520 12To ?

Posted: February 8th, 2023, 3:17
by qwrty
Hum, I see, make sense, that's maybe related to the old firmware ?

I can't use CDI, those disks are in a headless Linux server :/

601# hexdump -n512 /dev/sdb
0000000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
*
00001b0 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ff00
00001c0 ffff ffee ffff 0001 0000 ffff ffff 0000
00001d0 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
*
00001f0 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 aa55
0000200
604# hexdump -n512 /dev/sdg
0000000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
*
00001b0 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ff00
00001c0 ffff ffee ffff 0001 0000 ffff ffff 0000
00001d0 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
*
00001f0 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 aa55
0000200

Re: Informations about DC HC520 12To ?

Posted: February 8th, 2023, 12:22
by fzabkar
Try ...

Code:
hdparm --Istdout /dev/ice

Re: Informations about DC HC520 12To ?

Posted: February 8th, 2023, 15:46
by qwrty
601 model

Code:
/dev/sda:
045a 3fff c837 0010 0000 0000 003f 0000
**************MASKED SN*************
2020 2020 2020 2020 0003 0000 0038 4c45
474e 5833 5130 4847 5354 2048 5548 3732
3132 3132 414c 4536 3031 2020 2020 2020
2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010
4001 2f00 4000 0200 0200 0007 3fff 0010
003f fc10 00fb 7910 ffff 0fff 0000 0007
0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0c18 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 001f 970e 0076 0cde 0044
03fc 0029 746b 7d69 4773 7469 bc49 4773
407f 824a 8001 00fe fffe 0000 0000 0008
00ca 00f9 2710 0000 0000 7500 0005 0000
00ca 0000 6003 5a87 5000 cca2 70c4 9394
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 40dc
405c 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0021 000b 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0008
4f48 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0002 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 003d 0000
0000 4000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 1c20 0000 0000 0000 0000 10ff 0021
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 7500
0005 0000 0008 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 4000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1ca5


604 model

Code:
/dev/sdg:
045a 3fff c837 0010 0000 0000 003f 0000
**************MASKED SN*************
2020 2020 2020 2020 0003 0000 0038 4c45
474e 5739 4730 4847 5354 2048 5548 3732
3132 3132 414c 4536 3034 2020 2020 2020
2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010
4000 2f00 4000 0200 0200 0007 3fff 0010
003f fc10 00fb 5910 ffff 0fff 0000 0007
0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0d08 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 001f 970e 0076 0cde 0044
03fc 0029 746b 7d69 4773 7469 bc49 4773
407f 820e 0000 00fe fffe 0000 0000 0008
00ca 00f9 2710 0000 0000 7500 0005 0000
00ca 0000 6003 5a87 5000 cca2 b0e4 7d98
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 40dc
405c 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0001 000b 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0008
474e 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0002 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 003d 0000
0000 4000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 1c20 0000 0000 0000 0000 10ff 0021
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 7500
0005 0000 0008 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 07a5

Re: Informations about DC HC520 12To ?

Posted: February 8th, 2023, 17:17
by fzabkar
This is the standards document I'm using. I couldn't find a direct download. Sorry.

Information technology - ATA Command Set - 4 (ACS-4) - Revision 18, August 4, 2017
https://www.scribd.com/document/4724678 ... et-4-1-pdf

Identify Device words 59, 89, 90 appear to be the pertinent ones.

AFAICT, the time required for and Enhanced SECURITY ERASE UNIT command in the 601 model is 1 minute. Bit 13 of word #59 is set to 1, so this means that the CRYPTO SCRAMBLE EXT command is supported.

The 604 model supports neither command.

Therefore it seems that 601 is indeed a SED, and 604 is not.

Code:
Word 89 O B F Time required for a Normal Erase mode SECURITY ERASE UNIT command (see 7.13.6.43)

Code:
Word 90 O B F Time required for an Enhanced Erase mode SECURITY ERASE UNIT command (see 7.13.6.44)

Code:
Word 59 M See 7.13.6.21

B F 15 The BLOCK ERASE EXT command is supported (see 7.34.2)
B F 14 The OVERWRITE EXT command is supported (see 7.34.4)
B F 13 The CRYPTO SCRAMBLE EXT command is supported (see 7.34.3)
B F 12 The Sanitize feature set is supported (see 4.18)
B F 11 1 = The commands allowed during a sanitize operation are as specified by this standard (see 4.18.6)
       0 = The commands allowed during a sanitize operation are as specified by ACS-2

B F 10 The SANITIZE ANTIFREEZE LOCK EXT command is supported (see 7.34.5)
     9 Reserved
X  8:0 Obsolete

601 model

Code:
Offset(h) 00   01   02   03   04   05   06   07   08   09

00000000  045A 3FFF C837 0010 0000 0000 003F 0000 2020 2020  .Z?ÿÈ7.......?..   
00000010  2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020                     
00000020  0003 0000 0038 4C45 474E 5833 5130 4847 5354 2048  .....8LEGNX3Q0HGST H
00000030  5548 3732 3132 3132 414C 4536 3031 2020 2020 2020  UH721212ALE601     
00000040  2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010 4001 2F00                €.@./.
00000050  4000 0200 0200 0007 3FFF 0010 003F FC10 00FB 7910  @.......?ÿ...?ü..ûy.
00000060  FFFF 0FFF 0000 0007 0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0C18  ÿÿ.ÿ.......x.x.x.x..
00000070  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 001F 970E 0076 0CDE 0044  ............—..v.Þ.D
00000080  03FC 0029 746B 7D69 4773 7469 BC49 4773 407F 824A  .ü.)tk}iGsti¼IGs@.‚J
00000090  8001 00FE FFFE 0000 0000 0008 00CA 00F9 2710 0000  €..þÿþ.......Ê.ù'...
00000100  0000 7500 0005 0000 00CA 0000 6003 5A87 5000 CCA2  ..u......Ê..`.Z‡P.Ì¢
00000110  70C4 9394 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 40DC  pÄ“”..............@Ü
00000120  405C 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0021 000B  @\...............!..
00000130  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....................
00000140  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....................
00000150  0000 0008 4F48 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....OH..............
00000160  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0002 0000  ....................
00000170  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....................
00000180  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....................
00000190  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....................
00000200  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 003D 0000 0000 4000  .............=....@.
00000210  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1C20 0000 0000  ............... ....
00000220  0000 0000 10FF 0021 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  .....ÿ.!............
00000230  0000 7500 0005 0000 0008 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ..u.................
00000240  0000 0000 0000 4000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ......@.............
00000250  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1CA5                      ...........¥

604

Code:
Offset(h) 00   01   02   03   04   05   06   07   08   09

00000000  045A 3FFF C837 0010 0000 0000 003F 0000 2020 2020  .Z?ÿÈ7.......?..   
00000010  2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020                     
00000020  0003 0000 0038 4C45 474E 5739 4730 4847 5354 2048  .....8LEGNW9G0HGST H
00000030  5548 3732 3132 3132 414C 4536 3034 2020 2020 2020  UH721212ALE604     
00000040  2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010 4000 2F00                €.@./.
00000050  4000 0200 0200 0007 3FFF 0010 003F FC10 00FB 5910  @.......?ÿ...?ü..ûY.
00000060  FFFF 0FFF 0000 0007 0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0D08  ÿÿ.ÿ.......x.x.x.x..
00000070  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 001F 970E 0076 0CDE 0044  ............—..v.Þ.D
00000080  03FC 0029 746B 7D69 4773 7469 BC49 4773 407F 820E  .ü.)tk}iGsti¼IGs@.‚.
00000090  0000 00FE FFFE 0000 0000 0008 00CA 00F9 2710 0000  ...þÿþ.......Ê.ù'...
00000100  0000 7500 0005 0000 00CA 0000 6003 5A87 5000 CCA2  ..u......Ê..`.Z‡P.Ì¢
00000110  B0E4 7D98 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 40DC  °ä}˜..............@Ü
00000120  405C 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 000B  @\..................
00000130  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....................
00000140  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....................
00000150  0000 0008 474E 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....GN..............
00000160  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0002 0000  ....................
00000170  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....................
00000180  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....................
00000190  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....................
00000200  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 003D 0000 0000 4000  .............=....@.
00000210  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1C20 0000 0000  ............... ....
00000220  0000 0000 10FF 0021 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  .....ÿ.!............
00000230  0000 7500 0005 0000 0008 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ..u.................
00000240  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ....................
00000250  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 07A5                      ...........¥

Re: Informations about DC HC520 12To ?

Posted: February 9th, 2023, 5:52
by qwrty
Therefore it seems that 601 is indeed a SED, and 604 is not.


Yes, but hdparm report that option is not enable:

hdparm -I /dev/sda

Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
not enabled
not locked
not frozen
not expired: security count
supported: enhanced erase


I mean, I know 601 is SED (I know it from P/N), but i'm wondering how it could be not enable ?

Re: Informations about DC HC520 12To ?

Posted: February 9th, 2023, 10:27
by qwrty
WD Support told me to flash VXGXB9U0.bin my 601s o_O
What GX firmware standfor ?

Re: Informations about DC HC520 12To ?

Posted: February 9th, 2023, 13:20
by fzabkar
The security feature set refers to the ATA password. It's not related to SED -- they are two different things. "Not enabled" means that no password has been set.
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