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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: October 29th, 2010, 4:13 
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I think he should continue with purchasing the chinese ripoff. He obviously has no intention of taking the advise of anyone here.

Maybe when he realises that quality is important and that STR crap has none, he will return and listen to the posts here.

Sometimes people need to learn for themselves I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: October 29th, 2010, 5:04 
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It seems to me that STR-3000 can do things that can be done by using ANY terminal program and a good manual about Seagate terminal commands.
Am I wrong?


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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: October 29th, 2010, 5:38 
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Maybe expect a one-click solution OR get a random solution then someone else (*cough*) will be stressed to give the answers for NON-EXISTING support ?


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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: October 29th, 2010, 6:13 
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BGman wrote:
It seems to me that STR-3000 can do things that can be done by using ANY terminal program and a good manual about Seagate terminal commands.
Am I wrong?



You are right. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: October 29th, 2010, 7:09 
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If the Americans painted their rocket with the same design and used all the same icons then you may compare.


If this software was new and interesting it would not have ripped off the Pc3k interface....... If you can't be bothered to design your own GUI why bother making the code any better..


So It's a clone, not original and need I say more?


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ppumkin wrote:
We tried comparing cars to DR in another thread.
We came to the conclusion that Space Rockets are more better comparison.


So I ammend my analogy to say instead that all of the United States Space missions were ineffective because they were not Sputnik-1 ("the original" space rocket)

At any rate, I don't wish for this to turn into a flame war. I enjoy the spirited and intelligent debate and thank all of you for your insights and opinions.

Respectfully,
Vito

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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: October 30th, 2010, 9:54 
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apart from the gui ,independant testing of software has to be done before we could jump to conclusions.
It certainly does not deserve so if it is cloned version ,but that claim has to be authenticated by some third party person. If someone has purchased it and checked its functionality , pls. comment


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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 7th, 2010, 7:39 
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so far so good
first hand review of the product is cool.
I must admit , though software resembles to pc family , it has some of the independant functions as well.
at $340 its cheap buy considering updates are free ( no tech support as well)
for beginners this could be cheap solution to get access to smart / g list etc.


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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 8th, 2010, 4:00 
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On 22/08/10 I sent the following email to str300 at yahoo dot com dot cn. On 31/08 I received a reply that simply said "I send you 7200.10 HDD read rom". The attachment contained exactly the same file that was the subject of my query.

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I wish to advise that the EXE file in the following RAR archive appears to be infected with malware, Trojan.Backdoor.Hupigon5.

http://www.chinahdd.cn/uploads/soft/201 ... 083941.rar

I don't know if these are false positives, but here is the report:

http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/rep ... 1282467098


Here is the latest report:
http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/rep ... 1289201424

I suspect that the software may have code morphing components designed to thwart reverse engineering, as does SeDiv. However, the poor pre-sales support doesn't inspire me with confidence in the product.

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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 8th, 2010, 5:08 
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As one of the friendly nice Chinese people, I have to point out that many products made in China do contribute to the whole word. They have greatly reduce the living cost of people all over the world with sacrifice of enviroment in China. I really want to go pushing up daisies on those who on one hand buy lots of Chinese cheap product and on the other hand say Chinese product is crap.

However, saying this doesnt mean I want to defend STR. I have to admit that "clone and crack" is a big problem for China. People pursue money more than any other thing here. Therefore they will not focus on well-designed GUI and reliable code.


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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 8th, 2010, 10:34 
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HarveyChong wrote:
People pursue money more than any other thing here. Therefore they will not focus on well-designed GUI and reliable code.

Do you still work for Salvation Data?

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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 8th, 2010, 18:55 
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I guess not as he is one of the nice people :O)

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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 9th, 2010, 3:29 
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HarveyChong wrote:
As one of the friendly nice Chinese people, I have to point out that many products made in China do contribute to the whole word. They have greatly reduce the living cost of people all over the world with sacrifice of enviroment in China.

The working environment isn't good either. For example, China kills about 10,000 miners every year.

As for cost of products, perhaps my personal experience can provide some insight into the Chinese mindset. In the early 1990s I purchased Seagate hard drives from a Seagate distributor in Australia and resold them to a Government customer in Singapore. Although these drives were manufactured in Singapore, Singapore resellers did not offer Seagate's extended warranty to their customers, citing lack of interest. The cost of the warranty -- 1% of the retail price per each additional year, up to a maximum of 3 extra years.

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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 9th, 2010, 4:08 
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Has someone done a successful recovery using this product? Besides GUI application has to be reliable & rock solid without bug, we are dealing with sensitive firmware & cannot take any chances


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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 9th, 2010, 6:10 
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chipsang wrote:
Has someone done a successful recovery using this product? Besides GUI application has to be reliable & rock solid without bug, we are dealing with sensitive firmware & cannot take any chances


I suggezst PC3K- Its rock solid stable and has allot of extra information and tools for hdd's

OR Sd seagate doctor - crashes sometimes and one wrong button and kiss your preciious firmware goodbye. But cheap and effective with good training.

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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 9th, 2010, 9:06 
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Totally agree with you Ppumkin. Cost is the only criteria.I am planning to try Str for training purpose. If if does not violate any copyright laws then only I will purchase it.


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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 9th, 2010, 21:07 
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If we copy all firmware modules /rom using any tool , and if something goes wrong due to bad commands .Is it possible to revert those changes?
If due to bugs of any other reason STR made some mess with the drive but firmware is backed up then is it possible to recover drive using udma or any other technique


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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 10th, 2010, 6:10 
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STR-3000 is ideal solution considering price point. It is best for DR companies having limited budget. It can be effectively used in Hard disk repairing and Training purpose as well.


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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
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mark hazard wrote:
STR-3000 is ideal solution considering price point. It is best for DR companies having limited budget. It can be effectively used in Hard disk repairing and Training purpose as well.

On October 16th, 2010, 2:22, mark hazard wrote:

In less than two weeks you've gone from "I'm very new at this how does MFT work" to dispensing advice about what DR tools other people should buy? If so, congrats.

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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 10th, 2010, 11:36 
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I have gone through the fundamentals of firmware & how it works. My comments is based on considering price of the tool. I am sure you will agree this is the ONLY firmware tool available in the world at that price point. Instead of spending US$4000 on Data Recovery Training advanced courses , I can Buy this tool and make my own research on various hard disk families. This could be useful to startup companies who can buy this to train there technicians.
Disk refurbishing also can be done using this tool.
Hope you will understand my point.


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 Post subject: Re: STR-3000
PostPosted: November 10th, 2010, 13:01 
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mark hazard wrote:
It is best for DR companies having limited budget.


Successful and professional DR companies will want to ensure they have the best facilities and equipment to be able to deal with various stages of logical and physical repairs. This is how the biggest companies in the industry maintain good success.

In my opinion there is no such thing as a 'good' DR company with a limited budget. A good successful DR firm will want to ensure they can provide the best possible service while at the same time be able to deal with any DR situation.

Those with limited budgets and their chinese knock offs will only ever a) outsource to real professionals, or b) cause irreversible damage to clients hard disk drives through lack of proper equipment.

Also, if your knowledge is limited and any developments you make and knowlege earned is based on second grade products, you will likely not develop much at all


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