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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 15th, 2025, 17:09 
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Piper wrote:
OK, I will check this tomorrow, for now it's kind of rocket science to me.

Take your time and do some reading. It will all become clear. :-)

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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 2:12 
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Ctrl x was not immediately after power was supplied to the HDD. Oh well...
First, I would like to see the answer to
F3 T>V1
After V1, press enter. The answer may be either very long or very short.


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 5:48 
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SWM wrote:
First, I would like to see the answer to
F3 T>V1
After V1, press enter. The answer may be either very long or very short.

Answer is long, veeeeery long. Hope that's not bad.
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Here is another Ctrl X right after power on and Ctrl Z


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 6:21 
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V1 looks fine, what about V4?
did you apply the F commands Fzabkar recommended?

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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 6:49 
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V1 looks fine, what about V4?
did you apply the F commands Fzabkar recommended?

Not yet. I am taking some time for reading before I make a destruction move again.


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 7:10 
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H0 is probably weak.

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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 7:54 
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I don't remember exactly, in my opinion the SMART log file is read (and written) in the SA with errors (or G-list?).
To determine more precisely, it would be nice to look at:
F3 T>V4
ctrl X
F3 T>/1
F3 1>N8
ctrl X
F3 1>/T


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 8:03 
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Pepe was right. Without special software there is a big risk of damaging the service area.
It would be right to save all modules from it first. It is impossible via the terminal on Mooze...


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 8:19 
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SWM wrote:
Pepe was right. Without special software there is a big risk of damaging the service area.
It would be right to save all modules from it first. It is impossible via the terminal on Mooze...


Can you confirm from resistance that H0 is weak?

Code:
F3 T>/7

F3 7>X

Head 00 Resistance 00FF
Head 01 Resistance 0127
Head 02 Resistance 00E2
Head 03 Resistance 00AE

F3 7>


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 9:14 
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resistance looks fine, but it can't read any sector from the start of the user area, that's why these are in AltList already. This is why windows hangs when drive is connected.

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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 9:43 
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Basically that means that I've come to the end of the street...

Here are smart values

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F3 1>N5
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Num  Flgs normlzd worst
1   000F   64     64
3   0003   5E     5E
4   0032   64     64
5   0033   64     64
7   000F   64     FD
9   0032   64     23
A   0013   64     64
C   0032   2C     2C
B8   0032   64     64
BB   0032    1      1
BC   0032   64     FD
BD   003A    1      1
BE   0022   4C     45
C2   0022   18     28
C3   001A   64     64
C5   0012   64     64
C6   0010   64     64
C7   003E   C8     FD
0   0000    0      0
0   0000    0      0
0   0000    0      0
0   0000    0      0
0   0000    0      0
0   0000    0      0
0   0000    0      0
0   0000    0      0
0   0000    0      0
0   0000    0      0
0   0000    0      0
0   0000    0      0

F3 1>


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 11:24 
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SWM wrote:
I don't remember exactly, in my opinion the SMART log file is read (and written) in the SA with errors (or G-list?).
To determine more precisely, it would be nice to look at:
F3 T>V4
ctrl X
F3 T>/1
F3 1>N8
ctrl X
F3 1>/T


The result is here.


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 12:33 
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V4 it took from memory (read during loading) - it is not clear how it is read.
SMART log is read from the second copy on HD1. HD0 is not read even by SA. SA has the lowest recording density. There is no point in dreaming about the user zone.
In principle, you can disable error processing, as Frank suggested. But what will you do with HD0?..
If you want - try. It is your data.


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 13:23 
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SWM wrote:
V4 it took from memory (read during loading) - it is not clear how it is read.
SMART log is read from the second copy on HD1. HD0 is not read even by SA. SA has the lowest recording density. There is no point in dreaming about the user zone.
In principle, you can disable error processing, as Frank suggested. But what will you do with HD0?..
If you want - try. It is your data.

If I understand this correctly, SA can not be backed up before heads transplant?


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 14:09 
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Why not - you can and should.
For this, you need special software that can read SA Seagate via ATA.
You can buy it or write it yourself. The fee for a DR specialist will be less. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 14:21 
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SWM wrote:
Why not - you can and should.
For this, you need special software that can read SA Seagate via ATA.
You can buy it or write it yourself. The fee for a DR specialist will be less. 8)

I did not mean that I am going to transplant heads by my self. My time on this planet is very limited, do not ask me why.
I am just asking to understand what is the correct procedure from now on.
If you have enough information about my drive, can you send me an offer on PM, how much it will cost me, and where are you located?


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 14:33 
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@Piper, there are ways to read the SA via terminal.

Read and Write F3 Arch Sys files with HyperTerminal :

https://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?p=7475#p7475

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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 14:59 
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fzabkar wrote:
Read and Write F3 Arch Sys files with HyperTerminal :


What are you using HyperTerminal or ZOC8?


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 15:30 
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There are no r and w commands on ST3500320AS.
I don't do DR. And my connections are limited at the moment.


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 Post subject: Re: SEAGATE ST3500320AS
PostPosted: January 16th, 2025, 15:35 
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I am not able to get to sys files.
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