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quasimodo

Post subject: problem recovering damaged sector 0

Posted: October 28th, 2006, 18:30

Joined: October 23rd, 2006, 8:56
Posts: 1336

Hello everyone,

I am having some problems with a Seagate 2.5" HD.
Although I can detect it in the BIOS, it will fail in post.
The drive has allot of bad sectors and BIOS can't read smart.
I believe my main problem is that sector 0 can not be read.
I have tried several different tools to recover sector 0, but nothing seams to work. I have tried to format the sector and I have also tried to add the sector to the defect list. But evertime I run a scan the sector still shows up as Bad. Here is my log.

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05.2001  10:49:23   MHDD>ID 
05.2001  10:49:31   ST9100823A  LBA: 195,371,568
05.2001  10:49:31   SN: 3LG191VV  FW: 8.03
05.2001  10:49:34   
05.2001  10:49:34   MHDD>SCAN 
05.2001  10:49:41   ST9100823A  LBA: 195,371,568
05.2001  10:49:41   SN: 3LG191VV  FW: 8.03
05.2001  10:49:43   Scan started
05.2001  10:49:43   MODE: IDE
05.2001  10:49:43   Device: ST9100823A
05.2001  10:49:43   F/W: 8.03
05.2001  10:49:43   SN: 3LG191VV
05.2001  10:49:43   -------------------------------
05.2001  10:49:43   Lap : 1
05.2001  10:49:43   LBA scan: 0 to 195371567
05.2001  10:49:52   þ LBA Warning: 0
05.2001  10:50:20   þ LBA Warning: 1992570
05.2001  10:50:22   þ LBA warning: 1994355
05.2001  10:50:23   þ LBA warning: 1995375
05.2001  10:50:24   þ LBA warning: 1995630
05.2001  10:50:25   þ LBA warning: 1996140
05.2001  10:50:27   þ LBA warning: 1996395
05.2001  10:50:35   þ LBA Error: 1997180
05.2001  10:50:38   þ LBA warning: 2028270
05.2001  10:50:38   þ LBA Warning: 2028525
05.2001  10:50:38   þ LBA Warning: 2028780
05.2001  10:50:39   þ LBA Warning: 2032095
05.2001  10:50:41   þ LBA warning: 2036430
05.2001  10:50:41   þ LBA Warning: 2039745
05.2001  10:50:42   þ LBA warning: 2042295
05.2001  10:50:48   þ LBA Error in block: 2044080
05.2001  10:50:54   þ LBA Error in block: 2045610
05.2001  10:50:55   þ LBA warning: 2051475
05.2001  10:51:01   þ LBA Error in block: 2054280
05.2001  10:51:07   þ LBA Error in block: 2062440
05.2001  10:51:08   þ LBA Warning: 2064225
05.2001  10:51:13   þ LBA Error in block: 2065245
05.2001  10:51:14   þ LBA Warning: 2067795
05.2001  10:51:20   þ LBA Error in block: 2070090
05.2001  10:51:21   þ LBA warning: 2071110
05.2001  10:51:21   þ LBA Warning: 2071875
05.2001  10:51:22   þ LBA warning: 2076210
05.2001  10:51:23   þ LBA Warning: 2080545
05.2001  10:51:30   þ LBA Error in block: 2082075
05.2001  10:51:36   þ LBA Error in block: 2084625
05.2001  10:51:37   þ LBA warning: 2086410
05.2001  10:51:46   þ LBA Error in block: 2087175
etc.., etc.., etc..

05.2001  13:15:13    Blocks > 500ms = 1054
05.2001  13:15:13   Errors: 606, Warnings: 1555
05.2001  13:15:13   Done
05.2001  13:27:24   
05.2001  13:27:24   MHDD>HELP 
05.2001  13:27:57   
05.2001  13:27:57   MHDD>SMART 
05.2001  13:28:10   
05.2001  13:28:10   MHDD>SMART ATT
05.2001  13:28:10   Getting SMART attributes...
05.2001  13:28:10   SMART READ ATTRIBUTES
05.2001  13:28:11   HDD: ST9100823A; FW: 8.03; SN: 3LG191VV
05.2001  13:28:11   --------------------------------------------------------
05.2001  13:28:11   SMART attributes:
05.2001  13:28:11               Name                        Val Worst Raw
05.2001  13:28:11   Att #   1 : Read error rate           :  66   51  205118579  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att #   3 : Spin up time              :  96   95  0  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att #   4 : Number of spin-up times   :  99   99  1894  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att #   5 : Reallocated sectors count : 100  100  17  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att #   7 : Seek error rate           :  63   60  86233680  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att #   9 : Power-on time             :  94   94  5567  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att #  10 : Spin-up retries           : 100  100  0  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att #  12 : Start/stop count          :  99   99  1936  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att # 192 : Power-off retract count   : 100  100  1955  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att # 193 : Load/unload cycle count   :   5    5  191223  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att # 194 : HDA Temperature           :  32   72  32  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att # 195 : Hardware ECC recovered    :  65   51  205118579  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att # 197 : Current pending sectors   :  88   88  250  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att # 198 : Offline scan UNC sectors  :  88   88  250  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att # 199 : Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate  : 200    1  3869  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att # 200 : Write error rate          : 100  253  0  
05.2001  13:28:11   Att # 202 : Unknown                   : 100  253  0  

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you!

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quasimodo

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Posted: October 29th, 2006, 13:18

Joined: October 23rd, 2006, 8:56
Posts: 1336

I have also tried to do an image by copying the sectors to a new drive.
But without success.I tried it with media tools, but it doesn't get passed CHS 0,0,1 or LBA 0. (it's only the demo version, so I can't set it to ignore bad sectors) I also tried Copyr's HD DUPLICATOR which also hangs on CHS 0,0,1. If I start from CHS 0,0,2 it starts copying sectors but after about 25 sectors complains about not being able to get a signal from the drive anymore. after a few hundred errors it is able to recover about another 20 - 30 sectors and after about 1500 errors and 120 recorded sector just dies. I also tried a few other Duplication programs but the results where similar to the ones described above.

As a side note:

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I also had problems with ATA password on this drive.
After spending frustrated time going back and forth I got the Master password. But  when I tried unlocking it with MHDD it would not work.
It was complaining about password being invalid, although I know this is not true. After trying it several times I gave up with the my MHDD unlock atempt(DEll drive). I got the dell xps laptop from which the hard drive originaly was taken and was able to unlock it from the BIOS with the same password. Does DEll do something to 2.5" HD's to prevent the unlocking from tools such as MHDD?
or is it a possible bug in MHDD?
Unfortunaltey I did not test any other tools such as ATAPWD to compare.
If anyone has had similar experience It would be great to share this here.

Thanks again

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quasimodo

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Posted: November 3rd, 2006, 20:15

Joined: October 23rd, 2006, 8:56
Posts: 1336

La, La, la, no one here :shock:

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hddguy

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Posted: November 9th, 2006, 16:47

Joined: November 9th, 2006, 15:15
Posts: 2984

BAD sectors is very common in 2.5" Seagate Hard Drives. Do you want to repair the disk or recover the data? If you want to repair the disk I think you would be better replacing it. If you want to recover the data there are many ways to do it. Media Tools should be able to clone this drive, but you will need the registered version as you need to set read retries to 0 (default is 32!). You can also clone the disk in reverse, this way you will likely get all data after first sector and will very likely be able to recover the data. Other option is to add disk to Windows (you can add disk while windows is running and add from Device manager with detect new hardware) and select recovery software with good error control such as R-Studio.

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quasimodo

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Posted: November 9th, 2006, 18:59

Joined: October 23rd, 2006, 8:56
Posts: 1336

Hddguy,

Thanks for the reply!
Yes, I am trying to recover the data. The Device Manager in Windows is crappy. It will make the drive hang. It's because of badly designed interrupts with Plug & Play (I think) :roll:

I tried this before! Plus the drive is only intermediately detected in BIOS.
I think PCB is slowly dying as well. But you are right, I will try to set read retries to 0 and if this doesn't work I will try to do a reverse clone. I have thought of this as well but, I only have a demo version of Media Tools which did not give me the opportunity to change these options. I guess I just didn't get around to purchasing full version. But it seams worth it, so I'll go ahead.

Thanks again

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rameez

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Posted: November 12th, 2006, 3:57

Joined: June 27th, 2006, 11:33
Posts: 2288
Location: In ur HDD !

Download Hiren Boot Cd this contains full version of Media Tools .

thanki.tk

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MOW

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Posted: November 17th, 2006, 2:25

Joined: June 18th, 2006, 15:30
Posts: 11
Location: Germany

Have you tried dd_rescue?

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rameez

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Posted: November 17th, 2006, 8:23

Joined: June 27th, 2006, 11:33
Posts: 2288
Location: In ur HDD !

dd_rescue what is it ?

And what does it do ??

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MOW

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Posted: November 17th, 2006, 9:32

Joined: June 18th, 2006, 15:30
Posts: 11
Location: Germany

... first google hit: http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/
It's included on several Linux boot CDs like KNOPPIX and INSERT (UBCD).

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Dmytro007

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Posted: November 28th, 2006, 6:31

Joined: November 28th, 2006, 6:20
Posts: 1

quasimodo wrote:

La, La, la, no one here :shock:

It seems that prob's not only in bad sector 0, but also in IDE - Cable.

Quote:

Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate : 200 1 3869

This attribute, unless it has zero raw value, usually means that it's the cable.
Try to change the cable.

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