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rchadwick
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
PostPosted: July 11th, 2008, 10:31 
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Ouch is right! :)
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PostPosted: July 11th, 2008, 10:42 
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Odieferous has a sonix to sell. Seems to be good too.

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CK
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
PostPosted: July 11th, 2008, 13:45 
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3200? Ouch? You're having a laugh? What did you expect? :roll:

You pay for quality, and unless you are offering $99 recoveries, it'll pay for itself in 5 jobs or less.

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rchadwick
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
PostPosted: July 11th, 2008, 17:33 
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For what it does, I'm sure it's worth it. For what it is, I'm not sure.
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CK
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
PostPosted: July 11th, 2008, 18:06 
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I'm sure they could have put a few more flashing lights on it to make it look more expensive, but why overcomplicate it, it does what it says on the tin!

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craig6928
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
PostPosted: July 15th, 2008, 1:51 
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CK wrote:
3200? Ouch? You're having a laugh? What did you expect? :roll:

You pay for quality, and unless you are offering $99 recoveries, it'll pay for itself in 5 jobs or less.


that right we offer $99 recovery :mrgreen:

so when your motherboard dies and you can not get a replacment your screwed.

im suprise nothing has made a cheaper versions.
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sceggy
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
PostPosted: August 8th, 2008, 9:06 
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Ninja (Forensic) is good for unattended bad block recovery (can set parameters using menu, or via NINJA Terminal - which we also use for raw IDE commands to drives; or creating bespoke recovery "scripts" from modules built into Ninja).

Also use PC3K, Logicube Talon, Tableau devices etc etc plus Access FTK, Paraben, XWays Forensic/Winhex etc etc - depends on the job in hand!

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CK
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
PostPosted: August 8th, 2008, 10:19 
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I thought we had already covered this Sceggy?? We use all the other SW & HW you mentioned for forensic purposes, but they are irrelevant to this topic. For Forensic DR, we hook a Fastbloc IDE to the DS and it works perfectly.

I'm sure the Ninja is good, but we haven't had a real comparison between DS and Ninja, so until such time that somebody steps up to the plate with both units, we're wasting our time. We could be waiting a while because anybody who has DS units is unlikely to stray to another vendor, I certainly won't be.

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pcimage
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$3,200 is expensive, but for a pro it's worth it.

I reckon mine paid for itself within two months, with saved time and better quality images.

In fact I might buy another, or maybe a Ninja on Duncans recommendation, he knows what he's talking about :-)

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wiseleo
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
PostPosted: August 23rd, 2008, 4:16 
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I find it amusing that the cost of a second workstation is even a factor in this discussion.

An integrated board with video/sata/ide + low end CPU + a stick of RAM is less than $150. When you are buying a $3000 tool, who cares about that? :)
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Jinx
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pcimage wrote:
In fact I might buy another, or maybe a Ninja on Duncans recommendation, he knows what he's talking about :-)


Buy a ninja and tell us exactly how much worse it is! Would be nice to get some proper reviews going on the popular DR tools.
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SteveMB
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PostPosted: August 24th, 2008, 22:38 
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pcimage wrote:
In fact I might buy another, or maybe a Ninja on Duncans recommendation, he knows what he's talking about :-)


Buy a ninja and tell us exactly how much worse it is! Would be nice to get some proper reviews going on the popular DR tools.

I don't understand. What's so bad about the Ninja? Isn't it a lot easier to use?
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hddguy
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
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pcimage wrote:
In fact I might buy another, or maybe a Ninja on Duncans recommendation, he knows what he's talking about :-)


You sure you and duncan dont work for the same DR company? :lol:

thinking about one of these ninjas for myself, but not sure how much more beneficial it will be, we already have multiple Dat Extractors and a deepspar machine. And lots of mixed feelings toward them here dont help! :(
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pcimage
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
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You sure you and duncan dont work for the same DR company? :lol:

thinking about one of these ninjas for myself, but not sure how much more beneficial it will be, we already have multiple Dat Extractors and a deepspar machine. And lots of mixed feelings toward them here dont help! :(


Nope, Duncan and I have our own companys and hundreds of miles apart!

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HardDiskBug
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I think it's the word "Colleagues" which created dilemma..

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granted, with the confirmation of some colleagues - specifically Sean

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hddguy
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I guess were all colleagues here :D
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HardDiskBug
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Then I too must be working with Clarke and/or in Retrodata. :lol:

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pcimage
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
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he he

One big happy family ;-)

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hddguy
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
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I wonder who qualifies as the 'daddy' :lol:
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Odiferous
 Post subject: Re: ninja kaze vs the ninja forensic which one
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hddguy wrote:
I wonder who qualifies as the 'daddy' :lol:


The guy with beard, cigar and riding a Harley Davidson?!!!


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