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 Post subject: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 7th, 2009, 10:25 
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Hola Gurus,
Muchos de nosotros tenemos experiencias con reparación de firmware, necesitamos hacer un manual práctico con estas experiencias. Podemos postear los casos y explicar paso a paso como lo solucionamos (incluyendo pantallazos). Comencemos con Maxtor Ares y N40P que son los problemas típicos sencillos en solucionar, pero que muchas veces no sabemos el orden que debemos tener para repararlos.

Hi Gurus,
Many of us we have experiences with repair of firmware,
we need to make a practical manual with these experiences.
First, we post a case and we explained step by step
we solved as it (including print screen).
We can begin with Maxtor Ares and N40P that are the simple typical problems in solving, but that often we do not know the order that must have to repair them.

Sorry for my english.. je je

Best regards,

Carlos
Bogotá - Colombia


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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 7th, 2009, 15:31 
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Absolutely stupid idea, because data recovery is not the area for amateurs. A lot of people will try to solve cases by themself and make a lot mistakes. It's closed area for specialists and real professional wouldn't share their knowledges. I couldn't see your first topic with example of Step-by-Step instruction and it makes me feel that you need this info because you're novice in data recovery.Nothing personal, but I disagree with this idea. :!:
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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 9th, 2009, 16:39 
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Steps for hot-swapping all Samsung drive families:

Donor should be same model and heads map should match on patient and on donor.

Steps for hot-swapping all Samsung drive families:

1. Power on donor. Run the utility. Wait until initialization will
complete,then put drive to sleep mode.
2. Unscrew the PCB from donor and install it on patient drive.Screw
the screws back. And perform recalibration.
3. Wait until the drive will enter ready state, then read the modules from the drive except some "big capacity" log modules.
4. Power off donor PCB and swap it on donor HDA.
5. Write all necessary modules(Look the list below) from patient to
donor drive .Then switch drive's Power off/on.
6. Press Sleep and Swap the PCB from donor drive to patient HDA.
7. Screw all the screws and do the recalibration. The patient drive
is "hot-swapped", try to access the data on it.

Modules for those families V11P, VICTOR, PUMA, VICTORPLUS, VERNA, VERNALITE:
"UNITABLE"
"SLISTHDR" (except V11P & VICTOR)
"SLIST"
"TLIST"
"ALIST"

Modules for those families PALO, PANGO, VANGOPLUS, VELOCE,
RUBICON, P80A, P80M, DELPHI, POSEIDON, CAESAR:
"06 CONFIG"
"10 SLISTHDR"
"11 SLIST"
"12 TLIST"
"13 ALIST"
"5D CONFIG2" (if it exist in modules table)
"62 ALISTHDR" (except PANGO, VANGOPLUS, VELOCE, RUBICON, P80A)

Modules for those TRIDENT, T166(S), STORM2(S166), TRIDENT3(S250):
"05 SRVTBL"
"06 CONFIG"
"0C ARCOTBL"
"0D GEO_TBL"
"10 SLISTHDR"
"11 SLIST"
"12 TLIST"
"13 ALIST"
"17 SRVTBL2"
"18 ARCOTBL2"
"62 ALISTHDR"
"6E 10SOFS"
"71 VFY_PATT"
"80 SCT_DATA"
"9B HSC_RST"
"9C FOD_NRRO"
"9D FOD_HSC"
"9E HSC_DT"
"9F HSC_RST"
"A0 FOD_NRRO"
"A1 FOD_HSC"
"A2 HSC_DT"
"A3 HSC_CYL"
"A4 IN_SITU"
"A7 FOD_HRLR"
"B3 AVSCAN"

I share this information to them. I am developing step by step to repair discs Maxtor and WD.

Best regards,
Carlos


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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 9th, 2009, 16:48 
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Why are you posting this?

All you did was rip this off Acelabs forum, Roustam's post to be exact.

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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 9th, 2009, 17:01 
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CK wrote:
Why are you posting this?

All you did was rip this off Acelabs forum, Roustam's post to be exact.

I agree with CK, it's stupid ripping from ACE Lab forum and nothing own researches/experience. This known all DR guys.

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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 9th, 2009, 17:17 
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CK wrote:
All you did was rip this off Acelabs forum, Roustam's post to be exact.

To be more specific
I don't know who Roustam is but this was posted on Russian AceLab forum by Vitaly Repka (AceLab employee) on December 24, 2008

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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 9th, 2009, 17:23 
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Acelabs post that in the english forum on the 13 Jan 2009.

All the registed users have acess to this information.

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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 9th, 2009, 17:38 
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Creator wrote:
Absolutely stupid idea, because data recovery is not the area for amateurs. A lot of people will try to solve cases by themself and make a lot mistakes. It's closed area for specialists and real professional wouldn't share their knowledges. I couldn't see your first topic with example of Step-by-Step instruction and it makes me feel that you need this info because you're novice in data recovery.Nothing personal, but I disagree with this idea. :!:
Cheers


Dear Creator,

You are not hoppest at all.
You most propably beleive that knowledge must be hidden because you afraid (do not know what).

By your thinking, we should not use knifes because some males that do not know how to cook might hurt themselves.

The suggested idea is very good and will help a lot of people that want to enter this field,
it is enought to mention the danger to damage the disk.
why all of us have to reinvent the wheel.

Immaging the people that created this lab to keep it for themselves.

It would be enought to mention the source rather than pretend is is yours my friend ccamargol .


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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 9th, 2009, 17:43 
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Hi, What is the problem to share the information?
When I published topic I added " I share this to them información" , I did not write it.
I have only had experience with Maxtor Discs and Western Digital and like I, are many wish to learn but about this.
In addition, ALL at some time were amateur. If ALL were expert NOBODY it asked nothing.

sorry for my english.

Best regards,

Carlos.


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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 9th, 2009, 17:47 
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Thank you so much!!! my friend mbatsos


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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 9th, 2009, 18:33 
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Hi Carlos,

Sharing the knowledge makes you immortal :-) ...

DR is the matter of livelyhood for many of us, most of the pals in this forum are fulltime DR pros.
It needs bigger heart to give away the hard earned/learnt tricks in an open forum.
BTW all PC3000 owners have access to the ACE solutions/support.
I agree with your idea to share the knowledge ....who knows someone might comeout with a
better idea than what the rest of us use today.

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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 9th, 2009, 18:44 
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Welcome to the Charity Hddguru Forum...Feel free to beg and plunder.

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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 9th, 2009, 21:27 
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ccamargol,

If you sometime up to grow up to Master DR. Very much of it I doubt.
To you the client ready to pay any money for the data will come.
But you that will not make. Because up to you, HDD has come into the hands beginner, read you the laid out another's techniques. Thoughtlessly used on HDD the client.
Only then you will understand all degree of the error.
Not any information can be published.
Enclose then the information how correctly to make a nuclear bomb. :)

To receive the necessary information, it is not necessary to be scattered by it.
Information can be received and in personal correspondence. But for this purpose it is necessary to be useful, first of all. Instead of to be the beggar


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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 10th, 2009, 0:15 
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Well another reason why not post that kind of info, ? Because HDD¨s are piece of engineering, not are flasheable, devices, like Motherboard, CDRW, etc, if we post a "manual" to how to did that, u are not understand nothing about HDD¨s for example on this month we receive a case "Seagate 250GB" by "unrecoverable" by another company who tried to did head swap, but like they doenst know some about the "enginering process" , like Terminal information send it from Startup they think on "easy solutins" like a market of " exchange parts" , head swap, when the problem was not the heads,was bad System sectors by this reason we cant share that Kinf of info, thats only an example , u should first tried to understand how "HDD Works" to understand how to repair it to get data .and thats are a lot of time spend doing u research & trying to "understand" how works" wich the most people doesnt want to spend because they want "one button solution" and this is not possible.

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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 10th, 2009, 10:45 
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Tomset wrote:
ccamargol,

If you sometime up to grow up to Master DR. Very much of it I doubt.
To you the client ready to pay any money for the data will come.
But you that will not make. Because up to you, HDD has come into the hands beginner, read you the laid out another's techniques. Thoughtlessly used on HDD the client.
Only then you will understand all degree of the error.
Not any information can be published.
Enclose then the information how correctly to make a nuclear bomb. :)

To receive the necessary information, it is not necessary to be scattered by it.
Information can be received and in personal correspondence. But for this purpose it is necessary to be useful, first of all. Instead of to be the beggar


When you use the free ustilities of this forum are you a beggar?


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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 10th, 2009, 10:53 
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beto wrote:
Well another reason why not post that kind of info, ? Because HDD¨s are piece of engineering, not are flasheable, devices, like Motherboard, CDRW, etc, if we post a "manual" to how to did that, u are not understand nothing about HDD¨s for example on this month we receive a case "Seagate 250GB" by "unrecoverable" by another company who tried to did head swap, but like they doenst know some about the "enginering process" , like Terminal information send it from Startup they think on "easy solutins" like a market of " exchange parts" , head swap, when the problem was not the heads,was bad System sectors by this reason we cant share that Kinf of info, thats only an example , u should first tried to understand how "HDD Works" to understand how to repair it to get data .and thats are a lot of time spend doing u research & trying to "understand" how works" wich the most people doesnt want to spend because they want "one button solution" and this is not possible.
Regards


We did not tell you to publish everything.
There are some things that can be published and others that cannot.
Others have the ability to present such info other no ...

Definetely I am not a begger and i do not beg you for info.
What special characteristics a HDD has (engineeringly speaking :lol: :lol: :lol: ).
The half of 100, always will be 500.
Anyway, every excuse against the free delivery of knowledge is scientifically unacceptable.

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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
PostPosted: March 10th, 2009, 12:17 
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I am not requesting that publishes all their knowledge, all we are here because we want to learn much more. I only ask to them that we publish some cases of success, will give a guide to solve our problems us. Nobody this forced to do it, but I am certainly to will help us much.
Additional, I do not consider a gurú, but I have knowledge obtained with investigation and experience. I have the great DR laboratory of Colombia: www.masterrecoverylab.com and I am not looking for to generate fights between the participants of the forum, to only share certain knowledge, since post has become in others.
Carlos.


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 Post subject: Re: We need practical solutions Step by step…
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Dear Carlos, look around, here are many cases and topics with disscussions. :D

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