Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses

[harddrivespecialist]

. One thing I will say, that no one here seems to be offering, is help for people who want to know.

....but you will teach them for $$$ (HOW MUCH???), Is that correct?

There is hundreds, if not thousands, of people who have been helped on this forum. Yes, there is many people who wasn't helped, because as you mentioned, they need to do a research and be persistant...

but I have not noticed you being here, helping them outFOR FREE

Most of you respond with there is no way to learn it

I have not seen a single responce like that from a well-known member of the forum and please show me and others that respond.

Hard drives have been around 30 years, so why is it all still a black art?

How come you address this questions here, but not to "manufacturers" of the drives, who make this information a big secret?

I can go on forever here, because your every other sentence is bullsh*t! .

[scottamoulton]

I have helped thousands for free, just so you know.

[BlackST]

Then why stop?

[scottamoulton]

I still do help people all the time for free, but I also have a job too.

[BlackST]

So do we : job first, then help. I find a oxygen-only diet DISTURBING.

[Disklabs]

In the UK, there is a Data Recovery course for Police Officers. They simply use Encase!

The thing is, Simon, that there is Data Recovery as we know it and Data Recovery in the forensics field. If we were looking for a few paragraphs of text or the odd photo to prove something had happened, then Encase will do it (as will other programs).. If however, the customer needs all the data on the drive that just fell down the stairs, that is another kettle of fish... Strange thing is, the easier of the two pays better

Only relevant if the drive powers up of course...

[Hammerbot]

Back to original poster who asked about courses. I DID NOT SEE him mentioning about starting DR business. He just wanted to learn. And what did he get back???? NOTHING, bunch of people making fun of him and saying its not worth the trouble.

About Scott Moulton.

I have recovered bunch of data thanks to knowledge recieved from Scott Moulton youtube videos. I am a n00b but i am not stupid. Thanks to Scott i know how TO NOT SCREW UP clients HDD. I am not an expert but at least i can tell when HDD i bad enough that it needs to sent to experts who use their expensive knowledge and hardware to recover data.

But there are many cases that can be easily resolved. This kind of recovery does not need to be 1000 dollar expensive. I have saved countless of family pictures for people who could not afford ontrack.

About learning this stuff: Please do not be smug about it. We all have to start somewhere. You were a n00b too when you started. You made mistakes too. I make sure that i make my mistakes with hdd that does not need to be data recovered. The more knowledge i have, the more chance is that the client does not need to send their hdd to ultra expensive high tech RD business.

PS. I am not calling myself DR specialist and i am not in the business. But if i keep learning then who knows, maybe in 10 years from now i can call myself a DR specialist.

By the way i found this forum thanks to Scott Moulton. I have big respect for many users here, but there are some people who make me feel that i am idiot because i want to learn how data recovery works.

[BlackST]

But there are many cases that can be easily resolved. This kind of recovery does not need to be 1000 dollar expensive. I have saved countless of family pictures for people who could not afford ontrack.

Then there were no serious problems. If only you have to fix a firmware, you'll need special gear to do it and it will cost $$$ and need to know exactly how to work with it. Does it count ? Note that nowadays 80/90% of DR is physical rather than logical/FW.

[scratchy]

What sort of job do you do Scott ?

[craigball]

I took Scott Moulton's course in January of this year and found it to be very worthwhile and worth the tuition. Scott didn't oversell the content and delivered everything he promised and more. It's a hands-on introductory course and covers a wide range of topics.

You will no more emerge from a one week data recovery course ready to operate a data recovery business than you will come out of a 5-day computer forensics boot camp ready to be an expert witness. Sure some try, but most fail. You've got to do this stuff--over-and-over again--patiently testing, researching and solving problems to gain genuine expertise. The "exp" in expert is experience.

Scott works very hard on the course and doesn't profess to know it all. He has a lot of hard-won experience, innovative graphics and many worthwhile insights he generously shares. Scott spent every night with us, and some of the best value in the course derived from interacting with the students he brings together in an intensive and interactive setting.

Give the guy some credit! Who's doing it better?

Craig Ball

[DriveDr]

Hi,

I took Scott's class in Atlanta a couple of months ago, worth every penny. Awesome, awesome class. He is extremely knowledgeable. They don't like him on this site because he actually shares his knowledge. If you want to get started, start with Scott.


Dennis

[BlackST]

SPAMMMMM !!!!

[DriveDr]

I don't understand why you feel Scott has to defend himself, he doesn't. He chooses to teach and not hold back information, simple as that. Don't be pissed because you didn't think of it first or have the personality or knowledge to do so. Scott may not post here but that doesn't mean he doesn't respond to people who ask him questions. I have asked numerous questions and Scott has always responded quickly. And guess what?? He didn't ask for money and he didn't have a smart ass comment like most of you "gurus".


Dennis

[BlackST]

I'll say it again : SPAM. Strangely, no one posted comments UNTIL today and - with some exception - the replies come from freshly registered users. Coincidence ?

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[DriveDr]

No Black, no spam. Just an honest answer for once. You just seem like a cranky old man holding onto his vcr repair secrets. Get over yourself.

[BlackST]

No comment.

[HDRC Team]

Hi All,
Please honour and respect to someone who is Knowlegible at this Data recovery world and work with you and give so much in very kind way including lot of videos and all for physical data recovery world, our team realy apreciate to Respected Mr Scoutt and please you people have to appreciate for some respected work ...as H.D.R.C. Team, we saw many times his videos and learn so much ..here we dont want to sell but really we respect data recovery world/forum and we have to respect somebody who is knowledgible and as per our best of our knowledge Mr Scoutt is real Guru to learn /guide you in very simple way or awsome in this data recovery world
Best Regards

[CK]

Hmm.....strange that so many "new" forum members are jumping to Scott's aid.

The real danger of the youtube videos and quick courses is that those who watch or attend may be tempted to experiment on a real customer job. The phrase "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" comes to mind here.

The only way to learn in this business is to invest time, money, blood, sweat and tears. But remember, learning techniques on a customer drive is a sure way to fail. I've seen so many half-arsed jobs over the years that the "good" that Scott and others think they are doing quickly diminishes. Proper DR businesses will survive through investment, R&D and effort. All the amateurs and cowboys disappear, but someone else will always think a quick buck can be made in DR.

[BlackST]

CK... What do you have against cowboys?

[jono-ats]

Hi All,
Please honour and respect to someone who is Knowlegible at this Data recovery world and work with you and give so much in very kind way including lot of videos and all for physical data recovery world, our team realy apreciate to Respected Mr Scoutt and please you people have to appreciate for some respected work ...as H.D.R.C. Team, we saw many times his videos and learn so much ..here we dont want to sell but really we respect data recovery world/forum and we have to respect somebody who is knowledgible and as per our best of our knowledge Mr Scoutt is real Guru to learn /guide you in very simple way or awsome in this data recovery world
Best Regards

You sell junk and don't even bother to respond to e-mails after you've sold it. Scott has by abiding respect. You don't.