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Re: Platter swap tool

October 28th, 2009, 11:49

Russwinters wrote:
HDD Spaz wrote:
You are talking rubbish. How come my lab and many other labs are able to swap platters using only our hands.

It's nice to see some pictures of a real tool. I am sure this tool will be the best available on the market.




I am intrigued, how do you manage to transplant platters with spacers with only your hands? Have you discovered a way to realign after moving them?

Regards,



It's possible but difficult! I have been testing this for some time now. But my success with re-aligning platters has only been 30%. Not something I would currently try on a clients drive.
I am sure some others have perfected the technique.

Re: Platter swap tool

October 28th, 2009, 12:20

Interesting, I am assuming this only works on some drives? (Certain manufacturers?)

In my own testing I have found *certain* drives to be more resilient to shifts then others

Re: Platter swap tool

October 28th, 2009, 13:11

I like others keep alignment by using cheap tools. I don't remove one platter at a time. I move all platters at once but using my hands. Thats what I meant.

Re: Platter swap tool

October 28th, 2009, 13:44

Russwinters wrote:Interesting, I am assuming this only works on some drives? (Certain manufacturers?)

In my own testing I have found *certain* drives to be more resilient to shifts then others


Yes, that is true. For example I have had absolutley no luck with Hitachi drives.
I tested primarly with Samsung and Seagate since they have terminal access. I have not tested it with Maxtor or WD. I am sure that with the right HD testing equipment I could achieve better results. Personally I would not use this technique for platter transplant since tools and other easier solutions are out there.

Re: Platter swap tool

October 28th, 2009, 14:41

Lets see your PE in all it's glory!




HDD Spaz wrote:
Odiferous wrote:
helpdisc wrote:first pictures


Hi Nikola,


I can see you are going to have the same problems with the finger width as we are currently trying to overcome with P.Ex.

I can't see from your photo, but P.Ex is mounted on a sturdy worktop and is not hand-held; you can't really do precision work if you are holding the device - movement (placement, platter clamp, dampener clamp, lift) needs to be controlled by machinery.
You still have some way to go - but good luck!


Duncan
Retrodata


You are talking rubbish. How come my lab and many other labs are able to swap platters using only our hands.

It's nice to see some pictures of a real tool. I am sure this tool will be the best available on the market.

Re: Platter swap tool

October 28th, 2009, 15:57

we do not have a clue how much it will cost, we are just traing to make it work. ( for now)

Re: Platter swap tool

October 29th, 2009, 12:43

Odiferous wrote:
helpdisc wrote:first pictures


Hi Nikola,


I can see you are going to have the same problems with the finger width as we are currently trying to overcome with P.Ex.

I can't see from your photo, but P.Ex is mounted on a sturdy worktop and is not hand-held; you can't really do precision work if you are holding the device - movement (placement, platter clamp, dampener clamp, lift) needs to be controlled by machinery.

You still have some way to go - but good luck!


Duncan
Retrodata


The difference here between these two tools is about a decade I think :lol:

Seriously though nikola, when do you think tool will be finished? I hear good things about the rest of your tools, looking forward to hearing how this one develops.

Re: Platter swap tool

October 29th, 2009, 12:51

hddguy wrote:
Odiferous wrote:
helpdisc wrote:first pictures


Hi Nikola,


I can see you are going to have the same problems with the finger width as we are currently trying to overcome with P.Ex.

I can't see from your photo, but P.Ex is mounted on a sturdy worktop and is not hand-held; you can't really do precision work if you are holding the device - movement (placement, platter clamp, dampener clamp, lift) needs to be controlled by machinery.

You still have some way to go - but good luck!


Duncan
Retrodata


The difference here between these two tools is about a decade I think :lol:

Seriously though nikola, when do you think tool will be finished? I hear good things about the rest of your tools, looking forward to hearing how this one develops.


The difference between these 2 tools is that one is real and will reach market, the other is penis enlargement propaganda.

Re: Platter swap tool

November 2nd, 2009, 7:24

I too am looking forward to more info.
I have a couple of head combs from helpdisc and ihave to say they are absolutely great to work with. Very good build quality and a lot of effort and thought in these tools great work keep it up.
Mabye you can work on a tool for wd head alignment

Re: Platter swap tool

November 2nd, 2009, 8:16

Hi,

Can somebody please explain what they mean by "alignment".
No, I know about circumferential alignment - this is mostly not important!!

"Alignment" suggests some form of adjustment to a position or location,
can somebody please talk about what is to be adjusted to modify or correct
"alignment"

Re: Platter swap tool

November 2nd, 2009, 8:27

thanks for nice words
I think alignment is wrong word for it..but we will try our best

Re: Platter swap tool

November 2nd, 2009, 9:17

helpdisc wrote:first pictures

good idea. i hope the final one will be more small & easier for use.

Re: Platter swap tool

November 2nd, 2009, 9:33

why You think this is hard to use?
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