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Head magnets on the platters

January 9th, 2015, 3:17

Hello,

I have opend a WD800VE drive (IDE) and found that the heads are stuck on the platter and the magnets of the third and fourth heads are detached from heads and stuck on the platter in another place.

I could remove the magnet on the top by using a tweezers but with difficulty.

Is there a technique how to remove the magnet of the botton?

Thank you for your help.

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 9th, 2015, 11:52

Here is a photo of the top platter.
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Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 10th, 2015, 10:34

Hi,

There are really no "methods" to removing the head sliders from the platters. But i would avoid removing them with any tool as your probably going to risk scratching the platters.

I would try heating the area with a heat gun (very low heat) with the HDD on its side. If it works they should just fall off the platters. I know heat isn't the best thing for platters but you don't have many options.

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 12th, 2015, 13:21

Thank you for your reply.

But if I change the heads without removing the magnet from the surface, it will not work as the new magnet will hit the one on the platter.

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 12th, 2015, 13:27

Its a head, not a magnet, for some reason its stuck to the platter due to stictation. Using a heat gun to warm the platter and magnet might make it loose. Again, strange how that happened the head must have been forced of the arm. Was the drive open in a clean room? It looks like there is dust on the platters, but that could be the image.

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 13th, 2015, 5:44

HI,
Twizzlers can Damage platters use paper to Remove it.

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 14th, 2015, 15:14

When I opened the drive in a clean room I found the magnet in that position. the head also is stuck (on the right).

the problem is not with the magnet on the top. I could remove it with tweezers . The problem is with the magnet on the bottom.

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 14th, 2015, 18:37

sosrecup wrote:When I opened the drive in a clean room I found the magnet in that position. the head also is stuck (on the right).

the problem is not with the magnet on the top. I could remove it with tweezers . The problem is with the magnet on the bottom.

Those are NOT magnets...as stated before, it's the head (slider). If you have a plastic drinking straw you can flatten it and use it to remove the head on surface 0.

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 18th, 2015, 12:38

no it's the magnet. When I tried to remove the top one, it's very resistant and and can't be removed easily.

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 18th, 2015, 14:52

sosrecup wrote:no it's the magnet. When I tried to remove the top one, it's very resistant and and can't be removed easily.


No, again. They are NOT magnets, they sliders and become stuck to the platter due to "stiction".

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 18th, 2015, 16:36

sosrecup wrote:no it's the magnet. When I tried to remove the top one, it's very resistant and and can't be removed easily.

Have a look at a hard drive break-out here: http://hddscan.com/doc/HDD_from_inside.html

This is a slider: http://prntscr.com/5u4d13
This is a magnet: http://prntscr.com/5u4dj7

Now, which is it you are having difficulty removing?

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 18th, 2015, 17:28

sosrecup wrote:Is there a technique how to remove the magnet of the botton?

The drive need to be disassembled

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 19th, 2015, 3:42

Doomer wrote:
sosrecup wrote:Is there a technique how to remove the magnet of the botton?

The drive need to be disassembled


Yes, I have done this on many occasions. In fact only last week we had a WD3200BEVT in with all four sliders snapped off and stuck to the platters.

Tricky, but not as tricky as a 3-platter 1tb portable :-)

Never had to perform this operation (yet) on a 4-platter Shrek drive, but not looking forward to it!!!

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 19th, 2015, 7:20

Possible without disassembling.
Lower part of the disk to the spindle in the cleaning solution from 3M for example.
Sliders themselves fall.

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 19th, 2015, 11:26

Thank you all for your help.

I didn't ment the big magnet. I thought that the slider also is a peice of magnet :)

Possible without disassembling.
Lower part of the disk to the spindle in the cleaning solution from 3M for example.
Sliders themselves fall.


Tomset, pleae could you expalain more? what is "the cleaning solution from 3M"?

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 21st, 2015, 3:58

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/e ... skDrives/#

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 21st, 2015, 4:17

Anyone know where I can buy this stuff in the UK?

I've tried many times to locate a seller here, but never found one :-(

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 21st, 2015, 7:45

In stores this does not happen.
Used only in the workplace.
Must be ordered through your local 3M.
For yet it is not available in some countries. As high-tech.
In UK, I think comes.

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 21st, 2015, 9:46

on 3m website: support-->where to buy

They have offices everywhere, even in our little country town

Re: Head magnets on the platters

January 22nd, 2015, 6:13

not DIY.
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