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Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 1st, 2008, 11:34

rchadwick wrote:I have Salvation's product. I like it. It seems a bit flimsy, but it's likely due to necessity. If you're very delicate, it should hold the platters tight enough. The metal disc is part of the design, and covers the surface of the top platter. You can drop all the screws without worry. What worries me somewhat is the disc itself scratching the top platter. There are little rivets that hold little clips to the disc, and those rivets might scratch the platter. I've been thinking of what to put on the bottom of the disc that would protect the platter, yet not contaminate it. Best I could come up with so far is a cleanroom wipe.



Hi,

I don't think the metal inserts are part of the product design. I think and hope ( i disposed of them :lol: ) they are only for shipping purposes. If you take your time, unscrew slowly and pick out the screws with tweezers, you should not have screws on the platters.

The major problem is getting the heads back on the platters without damaging them. Or getting the donor heads off the platters without them touching. Anyone care to share a video? I thought not. :D

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 1st, 2008, 11:51

That's the area that Salvation falls flat. I simply think of it as a platter exchange mechanism, with a nice magnet removal and replacement tool, and a nice drive stand. Their solution for the heads are simply little v-shaped pieces made from plastic sheet. I was never able to get them to work well.

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 1st, 2008, 14:35

The metal inserts ARE part of the design.

If you notice (well you won't now you've thrown them away!!) there is a hole in the centre on these inserts just a little smaller that the spindle ring. It's this that keeps the insert off the platters and keeps the screws from falling onto the platters!

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 1st, 2008, 16:12

I second that, the metal inserts hold the screws and are part of the design. Works perfectly for drives without platter seperators. The magnet tool is extremelly useful.

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 1st, 2008, 17:44

I third that. Just didn't want to be the one breaking the news :)

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 2nd, 2008, 1:04

ok cheers guys im going with salvation data tool now :) :ookay:

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 4th, 2008, 4:34

rchadwick wrote:I third that. Just didn't want to be the one breaking the news :)



Oops My Bad :oops: . I don't think they are essential, just need to be a little more careful. :lol:

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 5th, 2008, 6:34

Hi I have already posted today and since you have labelled HDRC as spammers I will have to be careful how I write my posts. Items from HDRC are sent from India and not the UK or the US, this is something under negotiation at the moment.

Please see my other post here.
post55810.html#p55810

If you have more questions my contact information is there.

HDRC do not offer a hard drive head alignment tool at the moment as the product has some design flaws. When it is perfected it will be back on sale.

Thanks
From Eddie Lewis HDRC / Droid.IT

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 6th, 2008, 5:10

craig6928 wrote:yes i seen that but some people say its ok not great
because when your unscrewing the screws on the platter
the screws can touch the platter and damaged it

im waiting for hdrc india to go online
they waiting for copywrite protection before going on sale.
this looks good as the platter does not come into contact with the screws at all.
or dust


Hi Craig

I see you are discussing the platter exchanger however this topic is listed under the Title : hard drive head alignment tool. The head alignment tool designed & tested by us is not ready for sale; it may still be undergoing redevelopment for some time. Most of our other tools are available. If you wish me to let you know when the read write head tool is available I am happy to let you know.
Regards Gaurav Sinha – HDRC Owner

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 6th, 2008, 5:11

HardDiskBug wrote:Now it's really "WTF"!!!!!!!!
Terry....you were right. Drunk Koala....... :)

Craig......so far, "commercial" tools for jerking with heads/platter is HPE from Xly. Second option is that bullshit indian company (I mean it...) and third is to wait for Clarke's product which seems quite stable.....


Hi I am Gaurav Sinha new to this forum. I would prefer you refrain from using defamatory words when referring to HDRC. We have no quarrel with you and as far as I know we do not even know you. If you would like to see us in action you are more than welcome at our office if ever you visit India, we would more than welcome you to our premises. If you would like to talk with me I am happy to take your calls or emails and would prefer that before you make more defamatory comments about me or my company.
Regards Gaurav Sinha – HDRC Owner

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 6th, 2008, 5:14

craig6928 wrote:the wft is want the fu"""

as they are charging $80 to send it to canada that postage cost only.
which only ways less then 1 pound and is small.

hmm clarkes product what this about now

as for the company in indian its a real company and i been in contact
with there uk branch
just have to give them time as they are new

plus its going to piss of a lot of companys too
who supply tools at a higher cost rate


Hi Craig

Thank you, both my business partners company in the UK and mine are both real company's
:good: Thank you for the above comments.
Regards From Gaurav Sinha - HDRC Owner

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 6th, 2008, 5:16

rchadwick wrote:Actually, Salvation's product has a disc that goes over the platters. Dropped screws fall on this disc. I've never seen in person (Has anyone?) the one from India, but from what I can tell, the Salvation product is much better.


Hello Rchadwick

SalvationData is a good company with a range of good products. It is also unfair to compare the two tools if you have no experience of using them as they are completely different.
Regards Gaurav Sinha – HDRC Owner

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 6th, 2008, 5:18

HardDiskBug wrote:What I told about that Indian company (HDRC) is because of the "Image" they have created for themselves. They have done all those things, which is done by spammers, thugs and frauds. They have spammed this forum..no photograph or any visible proof of even any sort of existence about their product..no technical information..hell lot of spelling mistakes like a newbie..even when it's about the price..("Price : Desktop - USD 390; Desktop - USD 450."..What is the fucking difference between both of them?). Morever, you can see Dmitriy's advice about that company ("Try a search for "hdrconline.com" on this forum"-Dmitriy) and yes, one of our fellow member has also visited their "magical" world..you can see his reviews in this forum somehwere...look out for Amarbir :mrgreen:
And, they have "NO" such UK branch. They only have some tie-ups with "droid.it" only on the training side. It's not their branch, only strategical contracts on the online training issue.

As shahi stated, Xlysoft is the chinese name for salvationdata...I was talking about the Heads Platter Exchagner from them..

And, by clarke's product, I mean Dunkan Clarke of retrodata- A fellow member of the field and this forum. He seems to be involved seriously in developing a kind of stable tool for working with Heads/Platters...Though, it's not complete yet and and don't know, how much time it is going to take either. Also, price could also become a factor....

regards
harddiskbug@yahoo.com


HardDiskBug Hello,

We always appreciate negative comments as it helps to identify things that we have missed. Any further negative feedback is welcomed by us so that we can rectify any errors that have slipped past us. Regarding fraud we will remove western union as a payment option as it seems that a lot of countries now portray this as an implement for money laundering and fraud. We do not wish to gain such an image; as far as thugs go I think you would find quite the opposite should you decide at anytime to try to get to know us. Another point you make is spam, this issue has been addressed internally. If you notice anyone spamming from HDRC please do not hesitate to let me know. You can contact me on my mobile 91 11 98 10041896 during India times, or email me at my personal email gauravhdrc@yahoo.com

We have also addressed the Desktop/Desktop prices; this was an error and has been corrected. It should have read Desktop / Laptop. The difference is in measurements as the laptop drives are much smaller than desktop models. The cost is then reflected in our manufacturing, CNC programming, design and development.

Regarding Amirbirs comments we are more than happy to show photographs of our office and are in the process of arranging that now. These will be displayed on our website within the next few days. If you do come to India at anytime just drop in and we will show you around, that way you can make your own opinion instead of using someone else’s. You’re negative feedback here is excellent, thank you for drawing these issues to our attention. I look forward to hearing anything else you can offer or share with me as we continue to develop our company in a positive way.
Regards Gaurav Sinha – HDRC Owner

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 6th, 2008, 9:18

Hello to all

I am posting here to just to clear all the myth regarding HDRC.

1 I know the owner personally and he is not Cheat or Fraud. he is very polite person.
2 I have visited There office and Lab when i was in Delhi. Its not a small office. Its really a big office with many computer and hard disk stocks. And there office is located in the IT area of Delhi (Nehru Place) That area is the India's Largest supplier for computer Hardware. Average rent of the office is Rs 95,000/- (1400 Euro or $2183. so you can easily assuem the present office Value.
3 I have also seen there Platter remoal tool. and I really liked that tool.

Altough i have never used any of there hardware tools because i have my custom made. But i have seen the demo of that product. At my visit time Gaurav also gave the demo of head removal tool which was under development at that time.

Thanks for reading
DF :)

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 6th, 2008, 10:24

Perhaps it is unfair, comparing a product I have in my hand with one that does not exist. Usually one does not advertise something until it is available. I would love to compare the two side by side, but that doesn't seem possible. What I was comparing was what little information I had, which was a crude picture. Going by the picture, Salvation is much better. It is an effective, real, usable tool. If your product looked anything like the picture, it was not going to be effective. It looked like it used a plexiglas frame with three long fingers, which would bend under use. It covers the drive completely, which is useful if you have no cleanroom, but use a bedroom instead. Also, the plexiglas cover keeps the three prongs from rotating, which means it might not be compatible with all, or future spacers. It LOOKS like a hastily-developed idea, without even a prototype built to understand it's flaws.

If you don't like me comparing a real product with your idea in development, you shouldn't put up for sale an idea in development. In my part of the world, we call that Vaporware. It doesn't give me a good impression of your company.

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 6th, 2008, 10:28

Thanks for the info DF. If it's a real product, I'm eager to see the platter swap tool.

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

July 16th, 2008, 2:42

at the moment im waiting for there head tools

and i will give feedback on there products

like i said they are going to show us trade secrets of the data recovery world
which a lot of companys will not tell yeah.

Re: hard drive head alignment tool

January 6th, 2010, 7:57

craig6928 wrote:at the moment im waiting for there head tools

and i will give feedback on there products

like i said they are going to show us trade secrets of the data recovery world
which a lot of companys will not tell yeah.

Hi, did you get the Salvation Data tools?
Did you have any success in repairing a drive?
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