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 Post subject: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: June 29th, 2010, 18:11 
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Hi,

I have a 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI - HP MODEL:BD30088279 from a client.

The disk was underwater and lots of dirt in the PCB.

I remove the PCB and cleaned the contacts.

The PCB is naturally damage, because the computer was running when the water coming in.

Q. It's possible to change PCB and recover the data in this model and brand?

If not ... next step clean room.

Thanks in advance

Neuron


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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: June 29th, 2010, 18:30 
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I suppose that case should be a Seagate SCSI Chettah so most models has adaptive information inside , u should need to check that !

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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: June 29th, 2010, 18:47 
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beto wrote:
I suppose that case should be a Seagate SCSI Chettah so most models has adaptive information inside , u should need to check that !

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Thank you beto,

In small letters (right side of the label) we can read : ST3300007LC.

And your advice is ?

Best regards,

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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: June 29th, 2010, 18:58 
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If the drive was fully submerged then there is almost no doubt contamination within the drive, as drives are not sealed 100%.


The preamp may also have taken damage if the drive was on when the water made contact.



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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 1st, 2010, 17:53 
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Russwinters wrote:
If the drive was fully submerged then there is almost no doubt contamination within the drive, as drives are not sealed 100%.

The preamp may also have taken damage if the drive was on when the water made contact.

Regards,


Thanks for your comments,

Neuron


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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 1st, 2010, 18:25 
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you need original ROM for this drive, and there is water inside the drive if it was submerged, so don't power it up with new PCB or you will completely destroy surfaces of the drive

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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 1st, 2010, 19:14 
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Doomer wrote:
you need original ROM for this drive, and there is water inside the drive if it was submerged, so don't power it up with new PCB or you will completely destroy surfaces of the drive


Hi,

So if the ROM is lost ... what is the procedure?

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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2010, 0:02 
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neuron wrote:
So if the ROM is lost ... what is the procedure?

If ROM is lost you can throw it to a bucket
But damaged PCB doesn't always mean ROM is lost forever

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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 3rd, 2010, 14:33 
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Doomer wrote:
you need original ROM for this drive, and there is water inside the drive if it was submerged, so don't power it up with new PCB or you will completely destroy surfaces of the drive


And in this drive which 8 legs circuit?

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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 3rd, 2010, 15:42 
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I must ask this: why do you gamble so much with your clients information, when you have such lack of knowledge in DR?

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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 4th, 2010, 0:14 
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neuron wrote:
And in this drive which 8 legs circuit?

Upload a detailed photo.

Generally, 8-pin ICs that are situated near coils are MOSFETs, or FETKYs, or PWM controllers, ie parts of a switchmode DC-DC converter.

An EEPROM will have traces connecting to the MCU.


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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 5th, 2010, 12:06 
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mr_spokk wrote:
I must ask this: why do you gamble so much with your clients information, when you have such lack of knowledge in DR?

Regards/ Bosse


I'm simple followed your steps and procedure:

"Pcb compatibility on a faulty Fujitsu Drive"
- > Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 17:58
and July 3rd, 2007, 18:15

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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 5th, 2010, 12:11 
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fzabkar wrote:
neuron wrote:
And in this drive which 8 legs circuit?

Upload a detailed photo.

Generally, 8-pin ICs that are situated near coils are MOSFETs, or FETKYs, or PWM controllers, ie parts of a switchmode DC-DC converter.

An EEPROM will have traces connecting to the MCU.


Thanks,

Please find attach the pics

Best regards,
Neuron


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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 5th, 2010, 12:43 
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have u even checked inside of drive?

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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 5th, 2010, 13:37 
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neuron wrote:
mr_spokk wrote:
I must ask this: why do you gamble so much with your clients information, when you have such lack of knowledge in DR?

Regards/ Bosse


I'm simple followed your steps and procedure:

"Pcb compatibility on a faulty Fujitsu Drive"
- > Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 17:58
and July 3rd, 2007, 18:15

Neuron


Not all procedures work on all drives. Each problem is unique to each drive and you need to understand what is your problem on this one before fixing it.

CK wrote:
have u even checked inside of drive?


Do not think so on this one. He is more than likey an IT repair shop which a person has asked him to fix their drive. I really do not think he does DR work and that is why he is here searching for answers on this one. I think that he should find a good DR repair shop near to him and give this drive to them to fix it. Or to take a look at it. He is gambling with the data on this drive and some of the help he is getting from certain people is not good advice in this case. If he admits to following procedures on another post from 2007 this shows he is lost and searching for answers on this one.

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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 5th, 2010, 18:27 
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In a SCSI Chettah the most cases wich i had check are working over parallell ROM there are few cases using Serial , ROM but the most wich i get here are over parallel , but like another guys told u, its very important check media , even SCSI Chettah has some tendence to head crash in a normal enviroment, so its very important check that in a Clean Room, but SCSI disks are more complex than IDE disks, not only by protocol´s used, Engineering its different too, so if u dont have experience, contact with a professional DR company

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 Post subject: Re: HP 300 GB - 10000 RPM - WIDE ULTRA320 SCSI
PostPosted: July 8th, 2010, 18:52 
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neuron wrote:
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If not ... next step clean room.



Thanks for your comments.

When I return to office, ... open and inspect.

Neuron


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