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 Post subject: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 6:51 
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Hi All,

I have got this hard drive which is not seen by the computer.
http://img822.imageshack.us/i/dsc04029e.jpg/

http://img704.imageshack.us/i/dsc04031hu.jpg/

I have found this drive one ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/WESTERN-DIGITAL-80G ... 588894a7ae

What do you say?
Before I order this drive, is it can work for PCB swap and/or Head swap?

Many Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 7:00 
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won't work for you.


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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 7:05 
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HDD Spaz wrote:
won't work for you.


Hi HDD Spaz, what is missing or must be in order for this to work?


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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 7:14 
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Different families.


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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 7:36 
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unknown20010 wrote:
Different families.



What do you mean diffrerent families?
Nothing but the date is different between the hard drives.

Or I look on the worng details?
If I do, what are the right details?


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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 7:43 
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Some customer has entrusted you with data recovery on this disk? :roll:

The family code can easily be identified based on the second half of model number.

Head Replacement is very difficult here so you need to make sure you have reached right diagnostic.

If you are absolutely sure the problem is not elsewhere, and head change is needed, maybe you should consider outsourcing to a member of the forum who can do it for you at resonable cost with good chance of getting data off.

Maybe you should write here the symptoms? Some failures will share symptoms which can make good diagnostic difficult without experience...


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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 7:53 
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CrazyDoctor wrote:
Nothing but the date is different between the hard drives.


Is it a joke ? :)

hddguy wrote:
Some customer has entrusted you with data recovery on this disk?


The family code can easily be identified based on the second half of model number.

Head Replacement is very difficult here so you need to make sure you have reached right diagnostic.

If you are absolutely sure the problem is not elsewhere, and head change is needed, maybe you should consider outsourcing to a member of the forum who can do it for you at resonable cost with good chance of getting data off.

Maybe you should write here the symptoms? Some failures will share symptoms which can make good diagnostic difficult without experience...

Totally agree with Mr.Hddguy.


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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 8:38 
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I can't belive it, I published the worng picture! :shock:

Sorry for my stupedness

Those are the correct pictures

http://img801.imageshack.us/i/dsc04025.jpg/

http://img46.imageshack.us/i/dsc04027h.jpg/

http://img97.imageshack.us/i/dsc04026j.jpg/

This is the hard drive from ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/WESTERN-DIGITAL-80G ... 588894a7ae

* I can't edit the first messege in the post.


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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 8:58 
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These do look like compatible match, but experience is just as important here as compatibility...


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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 9:05 
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Looks like a good donor.

You'll need good diagnostics, too. And probably good tools as well.

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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 9:26 
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Nothing matches on the drive you want to buy. Its like trying to put a square block into a circle opening.. no point.

You need to find exact donor- fw, first 3/4 letters of serial number/ and best is production site match too.
Good luck with finding that. However- you can get these pcb manufactured in china.. but you need to know who to contact.. ok.

Then after you get the stuff. What then?

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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 10:12 
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ppumkin wrote:
Nothing matches on the drive you want to buy. Its like trying to put a square block into a circle opening.. no point.

You need to find exact donor- fw, first 3/4 letters of serial number/ and best is production site match too.
Good luck with finding that. However- you can get these pcb manufactured in china.. but you need to know who to contact.. ok.

Then after you get the stuff. What then?



Can you be more specific in your sayings?
I mean veteran members said that this is a good match. I don't know you and your skills, but you new in this forum so please supply more details.


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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 10:43 
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OK i m not sure what you trying todo. WHen you say not seen by the computer.

Does it spin up?
Does it show up in bios?
Does it show in windows device manager and show or not show in computer manager?

and
do you have any recovery tools? such as pc3000 / hd doctor?

In my post before-
you need to match
Firmware version (fw)
Serial number XXXyyyy...y where X-the same numbers as on your patient - whey y is other not too important [Best to match up to 4 first digits]
Same model Number / PCB number (maybe they used the same pcb on 120 and 80gb - but the fw will be different and useless for you/ unless you know how to replace the fw chip)

If it does not spin - then it might not be pcb - given the age of the drive- maybe spindle seized or stepper chip is damged.

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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 10:57 
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ppumkin wrote:
OK i m not sure what you trying todo. WHen you say not seen by the computer.

Does it spin up?
Does it show up in bios?
Does it show in windows device manager and show or not show in computer manager?

and
do you have any recovery tools? such as pc3000 / hd doctor?

In my post before-
you need to match
Firmware version (fw)
Serial number XXXyyyy...y where X-the same numbers as on your patient - whey y is other not too important [Best to match up to 4 first digits]
Same model Number / PCB number (maybe they used the same pcb on 120 and 80gb - but the fw will be different and useless for you/ unless you know how to replace the fw chip)

If it does not spin - then it might not be pcb - given the age of the drive- maybe spindle seized or stepper chip is damged.


Thanks for the advice with the 3-4 first digits, I didn't know that.
I understand where is "our" problem, I published the wrong pictures and you based your answer about the wrong pictures. I fixed that already in the former repaly of mine but those are the correct pictures again:
http://img801.imageshack.us/i/dsc04025.jpg/

http://img46.imageshack.us/i/dsc04027h.jpg/

http://img97.imageshack.us/i/dsc04026j.jpg/

Please tell me if you still got the "old" answer or changed it to a new one :)


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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 12:46 
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:lol: :lol:
I just realised that- sorry im noit sure how i missed your second links..

It is a close match. but it would be preferred on the same year and as close to the production date, just because they could have used a different version of chips on the pcb. Keep an eye on that but look for a better match.

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 Post subject: Re: What are the chances for this to work?
PostPosted: July 15th, 2010, 12:47 
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Oh - ignore the WMA of the serial number- its the 8E62yyyyy you are looking for

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