Hello to everyone,
i`ve been reading hddguru forum for a while,and i like it very much,its very educative and interesting.
I`m planning on starting Data Recovery business and i`m already doing IT Services mainly servicing laptop/desktop computers and have done some logical Data Recovery in the past.
I`m interested in some product that could work also for hardware/software related problems with Hard Disk drives and flash/memory cards.
But,i`m a bit confused about which company-products should i go for and what should i choose.
As i`ve noticed so far, Deepspar, Ace Laboratory and SalvationDATA are most competitive companies in this field,but i`m unsure which product showed best results so im asking you as experienced data recovery guys to help and suggest in which direction should i go.

Cheers,
Marko

There is plenty of information on this forum about the various products you mention. Spend time reading these, but beware, DR is a long and winding road - there is no easy money to be made and you face very experienced competition in your country.

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Ofcourse its a long and windy road,thats what makes it more interesting,i`m not planning making easy money there are lots of other jobs to do for that. With my contacts in IT Business, competition will have very tough opponnent
I`m thinkning about Ace Lab PC-3000 for Windows UDMA,what do you think about it,is it the right choice?

If you don't have at least discrete background and experience about firmware and mechatronics (= how drive families work) these are VERY EXPENSIVE USELESS TOYS.
Moreover, invest on TRAINING (= don't expect one on one help / someone else will do the job for you on continuative basis).
Finally, consider outsourcing

PC3000 is only a very very small part of what you need. Skill and patience are the most important

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Hi, Yes I agree. One thing to point out is there is also a lot of rivalry here which means when choosing tools your question is unlikely to be answered honestly. For example there are many Ace tool owners and users on this forum and many of them will ridicule the Salvation Data product owners and users. This is something I have yet to understand as many respected forum members use the Salvation Data tools. What I am trying to say is you have to try to separate the bull from the facts before you make up your own mind.

@dick - if ACE users were trying to be protective, don't you think they would be recommending Salvation products to new guys??!

If on the other hand, you expect respected guys here to tell a new guy how to setup his lab from scratch, then that's just silly.

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DDI and PC3000 from ACE labs. Nand reader from Soft Center. Logical recovery software like R-Studio are all over the net. Google em and look for reviews cause noone will be able to answer correctly. For example when i suggested to a guy that EASUS is a nice piece of soft - i got trashed. Yet i had several recoverys where R-Studio came back empty handed or full of gibberish and Easus gave a nice file and folder structure.

I am doing what you are doing Dick. I do allot if IT work and i come across allot of dead drives and crying men that they will get killed for loosing family fotos and movies.

I bought Salvation Data's DataCompass and HD Tools. This was before i knew about HDDGuru forums. But even so i would have bought SalvationDatas because of price difference. Ill tell you that if the hdd is recognised in the bios then the cahnce to recover data using DataCompass is verygood. its paying it self back quite rapidly. But i got into the DR stuff a bit late-even with 24 years IT background - taking a hdd apart and putting it back together to work.. no comment.

I would go with what Alexii said but pc3000 is pricey - my next purchase is Nand reader from soft center.

PS I use Easus software daily - its great-fast- and never corrupted anything.

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I`ve recieved quotes both from AceLabs and SalvationData,as it seems PC-3000 UDMA and DataCompass are about the same price,so i`m thinking about PC-3000 as a better tool but DC has lifetime free updates and technical support is much cheaper than AceLabs PC-3000.I`ve heard people complaining about Ace expensive tech support and updates.
I just want to mention that this will not be my primary job for as i`m in IT Industry for years and my primary goal is that i can offer support for my clients with data recovery if needed.Ofcourse if there will be a problem with physical damage and replacement of HDD inner parts i will consult DR in my country.

just want to mention that this will not be my primary job for as i`m in IT Industry for years and my primary goal is that i can offer support for my clients with data recovery if needed.Ofcourse if there will be a problem with physical damage and replacement of HDD inner parts i will consult DR in my country.

I think it is a wrong business model, but I can be wrong too. Different point of view, here. In any case, best of luck and I wish you evey success.

Maybe you got it wrong, I havent asked for business model advice,just suggestion regarding DR tools as i remember.

my suggestion is look for the DR that has the longest list of compatibility you said you will be competitive surely that will be a very competitive edge that you will need you'd be shocked how some don't support hitachi/IBM drives many laptops contain them not to mention the 1.8" MP3 hard drives and others as well to be competitive is to offer support across the board not just a select few. It is tough work and takes many years to become savvy it seems from my readings.

Skill and patience..... Agreed 1000% and may I add - quick access to donor hard drives in stock or quickly obtainable.

I hope you picked up the importance of what CK wrote ; "Only a VERY, VERY small part of what you need."

There are data recovery companies, quite a few of them, who don't even own PC3000 or SD or any firmware repair capability,
and they still do almost 90% of incoming jobs(success or not) - they shop out just the firmware repair jobs.

So if you want to start a DR business, your main focus should be elsewhere, before you start get going. SUCCESS !!!!

Like some DR companies you can choose the Easy Recovery path and get 50% success rate and if you can charge double the market price then you will make the same as the best expert in town
With a little good marketing and an impressive website you can even make more than the best expert in town.

I think that very few guys here actually planned to work in Data Recovery, most will have simply progressed into the role from other similar fields. It will take much work, much time and a lot of resources.

I think that best option is to make a deal with one or two members here, and work on a partnership programme. This way you can offer data recovery service, and any cases within your expertise you can work on, other cases you can outsource for good price (hopefully).

In time you will develop other skills, and many cases you will have donor disks available, or old damaged disks that need to be disposed. these are great for working on and making experiments.

When you are ready, then you can advance to clean rooms and expensive equipment. In the mean time, sign up to a partner program and enjoy learning about Hard Disk Recovery through your own experiences and your own developments, because there will be much to learn!

This is my opinion.

Hi matolano

Here are my 2 cents:

I have bought SD HD Doctor Suite, for about 2 weeks. Me, like you, work with Computers Repairs, for about 14 years, and now I decided to start a DR complement service.

It's not easy to start from scratch, because there is a lot of new terms that I don't now nothing. I got about 10 disks from several brands and I'm starting to play with them.

Some guys here say it's difficult and to do outsourcing instead. I agree but I think that they just want the service to all of them... They don't need to worry, because, with the price of the tools/hardware not all of IT shops will buy them. Worry when the hardware costs 100$ and you can buy them on the flea market. Then we all have to worry, because all people will have them, even if they don't know how to work with them. They aren't here to teach us from scratch. No one is. But the basics should be given (that's why the forums exist).

My advice: if you have the money and the time to invest, DO IT, no matter what you buy (SD, DeepSpar, ACE...). If you are a guy that wants to learn, why not?? Just don't expect to start making big bucks (like i did), right from day one.
I thought that the tools have a "one button repair" system that can do the repairs automatically eheheh.

Like we say here in Portugal: The Knowledge doesn't take space (in the brain).
Best of Luck and Success

PS: Where are you from?

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I don't understand why people around here seem to think this. I don't ever see people saying "You should outsource this... send it to me". I do see people saying "I know how to recover this if you want to send it to me" which is completely different.

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That's what I said before. This isn't a forum for help. There is some discussions but very few answers for the "newbies". I think that the newbies in DR aren't newbies at other functions. One thing is that guy that heard about something in youtube and comes here to someone saves his disk, the other is someone one needs some indications (we newbies don't need everything)

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Blown TVS
Seagate LED:CC repair
Recovery Software
Suppliers of parts
RS232 connectivity
Recovery Procedures...

This is some of the info that is (unfortunately) already available here.

All of which many of us here worked hard learning through research and without any information freely available.

You should try starting in this industry 10 years ago, then you will know about 'few answers for the newbies'.

Problem these days is nobody wants to work anything out for themselves, instead everybody 'deserves' this information for free.

Hi Hddguy

Like you say, 10 years ago it was difficult, right?
What if someone gave you some basics? Wasn't that excellent?

That's what we "newbies", humbly asks you. I think I can speak for all of us that want to start.
We just need some jump start. Of course, you can't teach all of your secrets, I also have my own business secrets.

I participate in 2,3 forums regularly in my country where I help other guys. I can distinguish what I can teach or not.

I don't want to be misunderstood here, or create conflicts. I just want to create a healthy discussion where you guys who knows far more than us, to give us a little of your light.

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