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 Post subject: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 14:45 
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Hi Everyone,

im new to the forum but i have read several posts to try and solve my HDD problem.

I have a WD2500KS-00MJB0 that stopped working one day. It would no longer come up in my list of drives.
I took the PCB off and some of the big chips had burn marks on them that stained the little foam.

I then ordered a PCB off ebay from the same drive. It took forever to get here and this is what the drive does now.

Replacement board installed with no changes
- drive spins for a second then clicks 5-6 times like a solenoid sound
- slows down, then spins up again clicks 2 times in a few sequences
- then it stops spinning

Replacement board with ROM from original board
- drive acts the same as above

Did i do something wrong in swapping the ROM chip because it still has the same problem after the swap.

I have read in some posts that there is a way to test the board as well, does anyone have a guide on that?

I also noted that the replacement board had the same part numbers but a diode looking component in position MH4 - SK1 was missing on the replacement board (mine had the component there). I tried installing that too and it would make like a rapid beeping sound, then move to the loud clicking.

As a side note, i dont really care about the drive, i just want my info off of it and then its scrap. I just have a lot of my research and pictures on there and i dont want this clicking to damage the info on the drive as well. If anyone has any extreme suggestions i am open to that as well as long as it gets the info out of the drive.

Info about my drive
MDL: wd2500ks-00mjb0 WD Caviar SE16
DATE: 20 FEB 2007
DCM: HBCANT2AAN

Original Board Sticker: 2061-701335-C00 AN XC 2W21 2EV2 7 0003330 7333
part number: 2060-701335-005 REV A


Replacement board:
Part number: 2060-701335-005 REV A
I/C: 88i6889-TFJ1

Thanks in advance for your help.


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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 15:00 
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Dead heads/preamp

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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 15:02 
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drc wrote:
Dead heads/preamp


is there a way to fix that?

i found a drive similar to mine (same model/size) but the DCM is different and its made 8 months later than mine.

Would it be possible to swap internals or something just so the data can be extracted ?

Thanks for the fast reply.


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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 15:04 
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By a lab, yes

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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 15:05 
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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 15:08 
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drc wrote:
By a lab, yes


so what would be the next step ?

Should i buy the working one and get a shop to swap spindles + internals? Im not an expert in this stuff but the worst i could do is try to get it fixed.

But at least the board is ok then? I guess whatever damaged it hit the heads too?


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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 15:18 
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linuxglobal wrote:
Should i buy the working one and get a shop to swap spindles + internals?

IMO anywhere that is competent to handle this would be able to source their own part.

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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 15:27 
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drc wrote:
linuxglobal wrote:
Should i buy the working one and get a shop to swap spindles + internals?

IMO anywhere that is competent to handle this would be able to source their own part.


im gonna take it to a shop to get an estimate this afternoon. I cant even recall the exact stuff i have on the HDD so the loss doesnt seem to big right now until i need something :(

thanks for the info everyone


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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 16:20 
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I guess, a simple computer shop can't handle the WD's best joke, the head alignment problem...

You will need professional help instead of "shop".

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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 20:17 
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That happens when the PCB is wrong for the drive.
You must tell us the PCB model number.
It's on the board itself. On a white label
or elsewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 20:21 
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Cylinder_Status wrote:
That happens when the PCB is wrong for the drive.
You must tell us the PCB model number.
It's on the board itself. On a white label
or elsewhere.


i thought thats what that was

my original has a white sticker on the plastic part that has the plug

The replacement board does not have that white sticker

This is what mine had on that white sticker: 2061-701335-C00 AN XC 2W21 2EV2 7 0003330 7333

BTW someone suggested i try the freezer trick to get past the ticking of the heads perhaps? The shop i took it to wanted 800$ to swap internals, i need my info but not that badly or at least before i try other methods first. if someone could help out i dont mind buying other boards etc.

But if there is some way to properly fix this then i would rather go that route. I just need it to run long enough to extract the info off of it.


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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 21:05 
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NO! NOT the freezer. It will warp everything metal.
That only works in a case of stuck heads.

In this case, it's possible a PCB swap will work, but like I said, see what Hard Disk Sentinel says about the drive.

Often, too often, this type of failure is a head-stack-assembly wolf in sheep's clothing.

At any case, whatever the issue, head-stack swap or no, we can do it for $500.
PM me, if you want us to check if we have parts.


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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 21:13 
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i just ordered one more PCB board since im a total tool and ordered the wrong one

My original had the following main controller IC: 88i6545-TFJ1 HDD motor combo: L6283 1.3
The replacement had a main controller IC: 88i6889-TFJ1 HDD motor combo: L6283 1.3

Seeing how the two main IC part numbers are different they have different properties and memory cache values as well.

Would that be that big of a difference to cause the clicking if the main IC was different? All the other parts are identical.

I think thats what caused the problem. Im waiting on the replacement and i will add the new ROM chip on the board as well. If that doesnt work i will just go with your option and take it from there. The replacement was only $40 anyways.

Ill try to keep this thread updated, shipping will take 3 weeks again :( Thankfully my thesis is due in 6 months so i have some time before then.

Thanks again everyone, im glad its not the heads i HOPE :)


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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 27th, 2010, 21:25 
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hang on . . . !
you need to rule out the PCB - anyway that PCB is tough as hell to find
2061-701335-C00

Install Hard Disk Sentinel Demo and tell me what it says about the HD
If it has a "?" plus "Disk Controller not supplying information etc."
Then it's PCB.

Otherwise it's head-stack assembly or SA, which both would cost $500.


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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 28th, 2010, 1:43 
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 Post subject: Re: HELP: Clicking Sounds after PCB swap
PostPosted: September 28th, 2010, 2:30 
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When you say that the "replacement board installed with no changes", do you mean that the original board allowed the drive to spin up, but with clicking sounds?

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