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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: December 12th, 2010, 16:22 
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Stoly wrote:
As for the fun part. There's nothing in the drive that I can't get back or live without. But I want to make this work, because I know there will be a time when I MUST do this (or something like it) in order to recover data from a friend/family or customer.

That's an excellent attitude. Good on you.

The first thing I would do is to determine the functions of each of the onboard DC-DC converters. Then you'll know which regulator powers a particular chip. You'll also determine where the preamp obtains its power.

If you have a digital multimeter, and if you upload a detailed photo of the PCB, I can try to help you.

Even if a repair is not possible, the autopsy may still be educational for both of us.

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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: December 13th, 2010, 10:12 
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BlackST wrote:
If this is your way of working with friends / family or customer drive, you MUST get insured... 8)
P.S. you were told that shorting the resistors was a bad idea (if they put them , there must be a fucking reason).
Now hope what you need is still ok. Good luck.


I AM insured the best way possible. Backup, backup, backup. As I said, more than retrieving the info, I want the experience for that one time that its the only choice.

I always recommend a professional service and have a long time relationship with Ontrack. But, as you may know. It's quite expensive. So while a customer is willing to pay anything to get back its database, my cousin is not willing to pay top dollar to get back his little girl birthday pics.

I have dozens of dead drives. If I can bring back to life at least one, then it's worth it.


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: December 13th, 2010, 13:25 
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fzabkar wrote:
Stoly wrote:
As for the fun part. There's nothing in the drive that I can't get back or live without. But I want to make this work, because I know there will be a time when I MUST do this (or something like it) in order to recover data from a friend/family or customer.

That's an excellent attitude. Good on you.

The first thing I would do is to determine the functions of each of the onboard DC-DC converters. Then you'll know which regulator powers a particular chip. You'll also determine where the preamp obtains its power.

If you have a digital multimeter, and if you upload a detailed photo of the PCB, I can try to help you.

Even if a repair is not possible, the autopsy may still be educational for both of us.



I'll take some pics and upload them, Tnx for trying to help


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 26th, 2011, 8:47 
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hello friends

we have:WD500AAKS-00A782
dcm HGNNNT2MAN, pcb stiker 2061-701590-L00 AD, date 28 sep 2009
two plates. doesn't spin up. after 10 seconds spins down.
not detected.

does someone has any clue?

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ephraim


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 26th, 2011, 9:10 
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If it does not spin up , how can it spin down?


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 26th, 2011, 9:19 
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spin up meant ready, maybe.


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 26th, 2011, 9:37 
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hello again

sorry for my bad explanation.

i ment the drive starts working, after about 5-10 seconds stops.

not really spins up.

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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 26th, 2011, 14:26 
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I have a clue.

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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 26th, 2011, 14:40 
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me too ... Spin up, faint movement of heads or even click after partial calibration then spin down ? :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 26th, 2011, 14:54 
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The flux capacitor might need to be reset.

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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 26th, 2011, 15:47 
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Ah, not the EGR valve ? :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 27th, 2011, 4:35 
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hello lcoughey and BlackST

tks for your answers

can u be so kind and tell me what are the flux, and EGR valve ?

what do u recommend to do?

tks a lot again
ephraim


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 27th, 2011, 4:49 
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:shock:


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 27th, 2011, 6:41 
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hello BlackST

what does it mean :o

brgds
ephraim


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 28th, 2011, 1:53 
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hello friends

can anybody help with this case?
i was looking almost at whole hddguru. seemes complicated.

maybe the answer to reset the flux capacitor is the whole story?
can it be done easily? how?

if the story is too complicated can anybody give a reasonable quote?


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 28th, 2011, 10:15 
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Ephraim,

I'm sorry that we have had a laugh at your expense...I seriously didn't think that my joke would have missed by anyone. The "Flux Capacitor" is the device that Doc invented in the movie, "Back to the Future," that allowed for time travel. The EGR valve is a car part designed to control emissions.

Anyway, it is clear that you are not ready for this type of project on your own and should take your drive to a data recovery professional.

Out of curiosity, how do you know that there are two platters in your drive?

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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 29th, 2011, 13:44 
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hello lcoughey

i had a feeling this is not going to be easy although i don't like the "go to professinal" type
of answers. there are a lot of so called "professional" in my neighborhood and it is rare they can do what we are not.
statistically.

we found that there are two plates after opening the hda very carefully.

if you still want to give good technical advise i'll appreciate a lot. even paying.

tks and brgds
ephraim


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 30th, 2011, 23:50 
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- Why not open the drive @ home for DIY?

Because the dust wich in the air much more bigger then the flying height of the head. (0.6-0.9 micron)
If only one piece of dust gets between the head and platter, then it will scratch the platter and free up more magnetic dust form the surface wich like to stuck to the heads and platters again to make more trouble...
Safely opening the drive can be done only on really clean environment, in an expensive cleanroom.


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 31st, 2011, 9:33 
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hello Victim2046

we all believe your comment is true. but i believe if u do it very very carefully the risk is minimum.
p.s i am looking for a long time for a location and/or tool to find out the no of platters inside the disk without opening it. do u know?


to my original question i received almost nothing? what does it mean?
either no body know?
or nobody like to share his knowledge?

brgds
ephraim


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 Post subject: Re: WD500AAKS died
PostPosted: January 31st, 2011, 10:36 
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Ephraim,

It is clear that you will not be happy with the answer (which you have already received).

Your drive has bad heads or bad firmware -- or both. Neither you nor your clever neighbors can fix this problem without special expensive equipment and relevant experience.

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