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Bonto43

Post subject: WDC WD1600JB problems

Posted: May 10th, 2011, 13:32

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Hello, i got PATA HDD WDC WD1600JB, 160GB(100Mb/s cable), 8MB buffer. Drive is formatted into four partitions, two FAT32 and two NTFS. One of those NTFS partitions is running windows XP, second has pagefile. One FAT32 partition is beeing used as storage/backup while another one is completly clean. HD Tune 2.5 report: transfer min 2.3 MB/s max 57.4 MB/s average 48.1 MB/s. Access time 14.7 ms. Burst rate 77.6 MB/s. Power on time: 5620.

In API mode victoria4.46b runs fine, but when im switching to PIO mode(170h) and trying to get "passport", error message shows:

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7:23:51 : [ATA protocol] DRQ!!! Press RESET or restart HDD!
7:23:51 : Get drive passport: Drive error!

This is what victoria4.46b API mode tells me about SMART:

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WDC WD1600JB-00REA0 WD-WMANM7349414
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ID Name Value Worst Tresh Raw Health
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1 Raw read error rate 200 200 51 12 •••••
3 Spin-up time 217 117 21 2125 •••••
4 Number of spin-up times 99 99 0 1230 ••••
5 Reallocated sector count 200 200 140 0 •••••
7 Seek error rate 200 200 51 0 •••••
9 Power-on time 93 93 0 5620 ••••
10 Spin-up retries 100 100 51 0 •••••
11 Recalibration retries 100 100 51 0 •••••
12 Start/stop count 99 99 0 1214 ••••
194 HDA Temperature 114 93 0 33°C/91°F ••••
196 Reallocated event count 200 200 0 0 •••••
197 Current pending sectors 200 200 0 1 •••••
198 Offline scan UNC sectors 200 200 0 1 •••••
199 Ultra DMA CRC errors 200 200 0 5 •••••
200 Multi zone error rate 200 200 51 2 •••••

WinDlg.exe, testing tool from WD website cannot proceed with testing and logs:

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SMART Status: PASS
Test Result: FAIL
Test Error Code: 06-Quick Test on drive 1 did not complete! Status code = 07 (Failed read test element), Failure Checkpoint = 65 (Error Log Test) SMART self-test did not complete on drive 1!

Should i be concerned? Is there anything i should do about this?

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chinopk

Post subject: Re: WDC WD1600JB problems

Posted: May 10th, 2011, 13:46

Joined: March 20th, 2010, 4:34
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what is that you are looking for !
Data or Repair

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Bonto43

Post subject: Re: WDC WD1600JB problems

Posted: May 10th, 2011, 14:22

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chinopk wrote:

what is that you are looking for !
Data or Repair

Neither to be honest. Instead I am trying to prevent the need for any of those. Those logs I've listed might indicate something, as it doesn't seem to be normal. I am currently running Victoria4.46b API test, output shows:

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7:57:39 : Block 155646976 Error: UNCR
7:57:40 : Warning! Block start at 155647232 = 515 ms

+171 blocks in range from 31ms to 47ms

Last edited by Bonto43 on May 10th, 2011, 14:30, edited 1 time in total.

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BlackST

Post subject: Re: WDC WD1600JB problems

Posted: May 10th, 2011, 14:29

Joined: July 18th, 2006, 3:05
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There is an efficient solution for preventing data loss , and it's called BACKUP.
SMART logs are not absolute truth about drive health and there are a lot of other factors to take into account.

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cpuhost

Post subject: Re: WDC WD1600JB problems

Posted: May 10th, 2011, 14:35

Joined: April 26th, 2011, 15:03
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Location: United States

Data Loss happens every day. IF your concearned about that information you should have it backed up.
With carbonite and mozy being roughly $50 for the year there is no excuse for NOT having those services.

If you have custom programs and configurations and are worried about that you can image your system to another drive
and or DVD'S with Ghost.

BlackST wrote:

There is an efficient solution for preventing data loss , and it's called BACKUP.

You beat me to the post - from now on im staying logged in!!

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Bonto43

Post subject: Re: WDC WD1600JB problems

Posted: May 10th, 2011, 14:52

Joined: May 10th, 2011, 12:44
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But is there any effective way to test that HDD? It's still working, I'm not having any bigger problems except those not-so positive logs which i have posted. Their content concerns me, as it shows that there might be something wrong. Sorry but i couldn't find better subforum for such a thread.

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BlackST

Post subject: Re: WDC WD1600JB problems

Posted: May 10th, 2011, 15:47

Joined: July 18th, 2006, 3:05
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Location: ITALY

There are but involve technical stuff that is beyond the possibilities of end users.
Roughly, assuming the electric and thermal environment is correct and STABLE ( ? ) , I think a common actual HDD <=500 GB have to be replaced after 2,5/3 years more or less.

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dick

Post subject: Re: WDC WD1600JB problems

Posted: May 10th, 2011, 17:22

Joined: January 8th, 2008, 5:21
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Location: uk

BlackST wrote:

Yep!
And then a high percentage of those common actual drives will last twice as long and another similar quantity will last only half as long. So that might be as little as 1 to 1.5 years. Then there will be another significant number which will fail in the first 12 months.
Its a bit like playing roulette. :lol:

So backup!

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chinopk

Post subject: Re: WDC WD1600JB problems

Posted: May 11th, 2011, 3:47

Joined: March 20th, 2010, 4:34
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I suspect that this drive is working without any problem ! 'BlackST' comment please

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BlackST

Post subject: Re: WDC WD1600JB problems

Posted: May 11th, 2011, 4:05

Joined: July 18th, 2006, 3:05
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When there is no evident problem, reading and thinking do create it. This is what usually happens in my opinion.
There can be some slow sectors / areas that DO NOT trigger SMART or increase reallocated sector count / pending sector but actually affect performance heavily (depending on where the problem is).

Either this is searching for a non-existing problem just to talk about SMART or maybe the question is hidden - entering clairvoyance mode and seeing in my Black Ball :

"I use this cheap drive that has been working for some time and I have data I don't want to loose : is SMART monitoring enough and is this disk safe for me ?"

Was this the question ? If so, facing reality : if it is a drive that store important data it's not the right choice for me, but it's an opinion. And NO, SMART doesn't help much in predicting failures. It's like the warning lamp on dashboard that glow when the damage is already going on.
If the storage is intended for 24/7 or even 12/7 , this disk isn't the right choice at all but it may work for 10 years "decently" or it can fail tomorrow.
There are a lot of other factors that contribute to increase lifespan or accelerate damage, but discussing this way is pointless without measurements, knowing the environment and everything else.

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