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 Post subject: hdd 5min. working than dead on and off?(barracuda 7200.12)
PostPosted: June 22nd, 2011, 11:59 
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did you guys experience a hdd working relativly fine for a 1-15minutes minutes periode in which i copy about 1 to 5GB everytime and then again beeing dead.

its then staying dead until i reboot machine completly (nothin else works - only reboot, no idea why!)

its a seagate barracuda 7200.12, (its all the data i personally collected:( )
it was an external drive running 6500 hours makeing clicking noises since it was new. s.m.a.r.t ctl sais 2 sectors defect and replace within 24 hours.

i was trying with 32bit windows xp(with cgywin) & linux.
both cant mount the drive but it works with gnu ddrescue and testdisk and starts copying 20-40mb/s for 1-3GB and then it goes down to 100KB/s a while or it just immidiatly stops.

then ddrescues makes 0kb/s and testdisk sais read error and nothing can read from it anymore.

and last questions is this a "standardizable" behaviour? do many harddrives do that is there a standarizeable solution (besides the thing advertised in the top of this side:P) ?

many smiles and a thausand thanks in advance


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 Post subject: Re: hdd 5min. working than dead on and off?(barracuda 7200.12)
PostPosted: June 22nd, 2011, 12:19 
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This is pretty normal in newer seagate drives

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 Post subject: Re: hdd 5min. working than dead on and off?(barracuda 7200.12)
PostPosted: June 22nd, 2011, 12:39 
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For the benefit of other readers, this thread is effectively a continuation/duplication of a previous thread (link below), which seems to have been abandoned by the OP...

hdd-5min-working-than-dead-and-off-barracuda-7200-t19665.html


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 Post subject: Re: hdd 5min. working than dead on and off?(barracuda 7200.12)
PostPosted: June 22nd, 2011, 22:18 
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This is pretty normal in newer seagate drives


interessting! so any clues how to handle it? which part of the drive causes it?:)

(@Vulcan: the other thread is yet obsolete and can be closed or deleted if you want, thanks.)


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 Post subject: Re: hdd 5min. working than dead on and off?(barracuda 7200.12)
PostPosted: June 23rd, 2011, 6:29 
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@joonas,
joonas wrote:
(@Vulcan: the other thread is yet obsolete and can be closed or deleted if you want, thanks.)

I don't think the other thread is obsolete - it helps to show people that we waste our time by replying to you, as you don't answer questions or follow suggestions in that thread :(

joonas wrote:
so any clues how to handle it?

IMHO you have already received good advice in the other thread, considering your description of your problem (but lack of requested data to my questions), based on the other experiences in previous threads by people with similar symptoms on newer Seagate models. I know I'm probably again wasting my time by replying, so I'll stop here :)


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 Post subject: Re: hdd 5min. working than dead on and off?(barracuda 7200.12)
PostPosted: June 23rd, 2011, 8:28 
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i made a new thread so that not everyone has to read the missleading/redundant parts of the old one!:)
please dont judge people in a forum based on claims that you make up. :shock:
the initial post here answers amog others the question you asked about s.m.a.r.t ,which i did, which does only not help much here. ..

...looking forward to any more construtive comments referring to my harddrive


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 Post subject: Re: hdd 5min. working than dead on and off?(barracuda 7200.12)
PostPosted: June 23rd, 2011, 8:58 
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joonas wrote:
i made a new thread so that not everyone has to read the missleading/redundant parts of the old one!:)

I politely disagree that the old thread is redundant - which is why I linked to it again in this thread.

joonas wrote:
the initial post here answers amog others the question you asked about s.m.a.r.t

No, you did not supply the SMART data I requested. That is the whole point! I would have helped to analyse it, if you supplied this when I requested it. You also did not reply to the helpful suggestions (which I agree with) which you received from labtech. In my previous comment, I explained that his suggestion fits with experience from previous threads here.

joonas wrote:
...looking forward to any more construtive comments referring to my harddrive

You have had constructive suggestions in the previous thread, which are the likely most successful way to recover your data - you just don't seem to like them :( That's OK with me, it's your disk, your data, your choice :)

Good luck with whatever you decide to do. Thread closed for me.


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 Post subject: Re: hdd 5min. working than dead on and off?(barracuda 7200.12)
PostPosted: June 23rd, 2011, 9:16 
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joonas wrote:
drc wrote:
This is pretty normal in newer seagate drives


interessting! so any clues how to handle it?


labtech wrote:
In order to be able to get a continuous image without interruption you need some sort of professional imaging tool (expensive) that works with the drive directly (outside of Windows).

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 Post subject: Re: hdd 5min. working than dead on and off?(barracuda 7200.12)
PostPosted: June 24th, 2011, 1:28 
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@Vulcan whats the price of the hardware tool you suggested, i cant find it?

closer trys with ddrescue showed me that the drive only fails totally until reboot within 0-100GB and 900-100GB
but seem to work better from 100GB to 900GB? could it be that the arm became less precise near the edges?


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 Post subject: Re: hdd 5min. working than dead on and off?(barracuda 7200.12)
PostPosted: June 24th, 2011, 2:13 
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also the only disadvantage of a windows/linux/etc to such a tool can possibly be the driver when i already have things like ddrescue, is that right?
because thus i wonder why arnt there any "rescue drivers" for common sata controllers on common operatingsystems?

and what do you guys think about those hardwaretools from Hongkong for $20 which are made for cloning (not necessary rescueing)?

thanks.


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