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 Post subject: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2011, 2:49 
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from a patient hdd i uploaded all key modules to donor-> WD800LB (silverII) without making the translator regeneration.
of course now i can't access to SA even of donor.
i have backup of both fws( modules,res,rom. )

there is another chance to restore the situation?


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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2011, 8:13 
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What was the problem to begin with, why did you upload all of the key modules to the drive. Which were the modules which were originally corrupt?

To gain access to the SA now I would suggest hot swapping into SA using a donor, which hopefully has the same head map as your patient drive.

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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2011, 8:27 
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You may still have access to SA, go in the utility and check. May be able to read mods by id.

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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2011, 9:00 
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cheadledatarecovery wrote:
What was the problem to begin with, why did you upload all of the key modules to the drive. Which were the modules which were originally corrupt?

To gain access to the SA now I would suggest hot swapping into SA using a donor, which hopefully has the same head map as your patient drive.


the problem was rom corrupted, so i made exactly an hotswap and it worked to access the fw area of the patient. i think there is no head map issues, since there is only 1 platter and 2 heads.

the problem now is that i do not have second donor..


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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2011, 9:01 
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labtech wrote:
You may still have access to SA, go in the utility and check. May be able to read mods by id.


in which utility?


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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2011, 9:08 
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with pc3k UDMA you can read by ID ... you can try also to see if you can read tracks and extract mods from there.
If you can read/write in the SA may be you can restore donor (if you have backup).
Which modules did you copy to donor for hotswap?

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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
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irs wrote:
with pc3k UDMA you can read by ID ... you can try also to see if you can read tracks and extract mods from there.
If you can read/write in the SA may be you can restore donor (if you have backup).
Which modules did you copy to donor for hotswap?


thank you for the reply.

i have got the backup of both (donor/patient) fw.
it happened like this: once i got the SA access of the patient ( first hot swap), i backup all the keymodules. than i hot swappen the pcb into the donor hdd, and here i uploaded all the keymodules, but i didn't regenerate the translator. and got no access to the patient neither to the donor.


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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2011, 10:47 
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positivebit wrote:

...than i hot swappen the pcb into the donor hdd, and here i uploaded all the keymodules,...


Your statement is confusing to me.

To write modules you just start the donor normally, go in the utility and write the customer's critical modules, then after checking if your donor init. correctly, now do HS onto the customer.

Right?

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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2011, 10:51 
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labtech wrote:
positivebit wrote:

...than i hot swappen the pcb into the donor hdd, and here i uploaded all the keymodules,...


Your statement is confusing to me.

To write modules you just start the donor normally, go in the utility and write the customer's critical modules, then after checking if your donor init. correctly, now do HS onto the customer.

Right?


not always. when the drive is clicking you need to hot swap pcb.
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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2011, 10:56 
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positivebit wrote:
not always. when the drive is clicking you need to hot swap pcb.
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Which clicking drive are you referring to? Customer or donor?

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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 22nd, 2011, 10:59 
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labtech wrote:
positivebit wrote:
not always. when the drive is clicking you need to hot swap pcb.
regards


Which clicking drive are you referring to? Customer or donor?


patient drive.


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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 25th, 2011, 3:38 
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please, can you tell us which are the modules you copied?
did you wrote the ATA mod (from patient) also and you are using donor pcb?

If you give us more details we can help you.

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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 25th, 2011, 4:10 
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irs wrote:
please, can you tell us which are the modules you copied?


All the keymodules indicated by hd doctor, there are many, should i detail?

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did you wrote the ATA mod (from patient) also and you are using donor pcb?

If you give us more details we can help you.


yes also ATA mod. yes i am using donor pcb.


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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
PostPosted: July 25th, 2011, 7:21 
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ATA module and ROM should match ... did you check it?
If you use the modules for tuning heads of the patient on the donor could be a problem, the key modules on hd doctor are considered key as importance not specifically for hot swap.

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 Post subject: Re: lost access to SA WD silverII family
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irs wrote:
ATA module and ROM should match ... did you check it?
If you use the modules for tuning heads of the patient on the donor could be a problem, the key modules on hd doctor are considered key as importance not specifically for hot swap.


I did not get you now. can you explain me better?

i mean this is step by step of what happened: the patient drive was clicking, but not related to the HSA ( sure becouse i swapped the patient hsa to the donor, and it was working while patient wasn't even with HSA of donor)

backup all primary key-modules from the patient before, and then i started the pcb hot-swap:
HD doctor ON and get ready and ID with patient.immediatly stop motor, swapped the hard drive with the patient one keeping donor pcb.
Start motor,now i was able to access SA of patient, and i downloaded all primary key-modules.stop motor.
then i put back donor hard drive on donor pcb, start motor, and uploaded ALL key-modules to donor SA. then, and here was my fault, i did not regenerate translator, but i simply stop motor and try to connect the pcb to the patient.and i lost access to both drive..


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