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 Post subject: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: October 24th, 2011, 6:06 
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Hi i have an JD503HI F3_1D rev 02, trays not turn

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HD503HI - FW: 1AJ10001 PCB: F3_1D Rev.01

Is compatible ?


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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: October 24th, 2011, 7:00 
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You mean platters are stuck?

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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: October 24th, 2011, 7:49 
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hi,

yes, I not hear noise


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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: October 24th, 2011, 10:51 
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And what do you intend to do with donor hdd?

If platters are stuck, then disk needs to be opened.
If disk needs to be opened, then clean room environment is required AND proper skills are required too.

If the problem is stiction, then a skilled pro can do this for you.

BUT if you do not hear any noise when you power on the disk, then probably pcb is kaputt.
If pcb is gone, then post pictures of your pcb from the component side and we can maybe help you.

But first you need to be clear; when you power on the disk, does it make ANY noise (like burr, beep...)? Or is it completely dead?

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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: October 24th, 2011, 11:05 
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hi,

ANY noise :-(

in red, I replaced a component that was much heated. (same reference)

My comclusion, pcb is dead, is correct ? or platters are stuck


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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: October 25th, 2011, 1:18 
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Your drive has sustained an overvoltage on the +12V input. The damaged component is a 12V TVS diode.

See http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/TVS_diode_FAQ.html

If you have a multimeter, then I could help you test the onboard voltages. A cheap digital multimeter should cost around US$10 or less.

BTW, I don't know if a direct board swap will work, but at least you will be able to confirm if the PCB is faulty.

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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: October 25th, 2011, 3:06 
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hi,

I have a multimeter (semi-professional)
For the test, is it necessary to remove the PCB?


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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: October 25th, 2011, 3:26 
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It would be better to test the board on its own first.

There are two 4R7 coils near the motor controller chip. Measure the voltages (Vcore & Vio) between ground and each of the coils. Use the plated through-holes below each coil as your test points.

Then measure the voltage (Vneg) at the bottom end of the diode below the 1R2 coil. This point should measure -5V.

I'm not certain which test point is which, but here is my first guess:
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/HD ... ltages.jpg

You could use a screw hole or a SATA ground pin as your 0V reference.

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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: November 2nd, 2011, 5:21 
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hi,

if i connect this PCB on the supply, it smoke :-(


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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: November 2nd, 2011, 16:39 
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First you need to be sure that your power supply is good. Then you can remove the shorted diode with flush cutters (as stated in my FAQ). If there are no other problems, then the drive will work without it, albeit without overvoltage protection on the +12V supply

That said, if the Samsung SDRAM is getting hot, then you have other more serious problems.

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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: November 3rd, 2011, 2:45 
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I have verify my power supply and it's work perfectly, i've test an other hard drive and with multimeter.

Then you can remove the shorted diode with flush cutters (as stated in my FAQ)--> i don't fond your FAQ :-(, is it in manuel section ?

i find this : js.list021.cn/view.php?num_iid=13707580923


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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: November 3rd, 2011, 16:30 
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See Q9:
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/TVS_diode_FAQ.html

BTW, if the diode were shorted, then the power supply would be shutting down, and therefore the SDRAM wouldn't be heating up.

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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: December 7th, 2011, 3:34 
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i remove one or two diode ?


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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: December 7th, 2011, 3:40 
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Just remove the one that is shorted, ie the 12V diode.

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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: December 7th, 2011, 4:14 
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i have remove one diode, but the disk is not find by bios


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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: December 7th, 2011, 4:57 
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So does it spin up now?

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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: December 7th, 2011, 5:15 
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yes, disc rotates now :-)

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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: December 7th, 2011, 6:59 
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ok, after 2 reboot, the hard drive is ok
:-)


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 Post subject: Re: HD503HI, trays not turn
PostPosted: December 7th, 2011, 7:18 
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junix wrote:
ok, after 2 reboot, the hard drive is ok
:-)



Thats good.
Now copy off your data to another drive as this drive no longer has over vaultage protection.


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