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 Post subject: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: December 30th, 2011, 7:30 
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Hi everyone. i have a Seagate Ultra 320 SCSI HDD (80pin) and i need a converter to ide so i can put it on DDI. can i just buy one from ebay? is there something specific that i should look for the converter? Is DDI capable to handle such drives?

thank you in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: December 30th, 2011, 8:38 
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No such converter exists. SCSI and IDE are in now way similar. Totally different technology command sets etc. The DDI doesnt support SCSI only the Ace PC3000 SCSI edition does.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: December 30th, 2011, 10:22 
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There is a program called MTL ( Media Tools) that is descent for cloning SCSI drives. You just need a scsi card and a adapter to convert the 80 SCA connection to a 68 pin wide connection, and of course a 68 pin wide cable ( preferably with a terminator built on the end of it)

And there is no SCSI to IDE converter.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: December 30th, 2011, 12:04 
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thanks for the reply. i made a quick search at Ebay found http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-SCA-80-AD ... 1149wt_698 . i thought that could help. I have a SCSI controler and i will try MTL. the drive is recognised in bios but the drive is clicking and cannot boot to OS.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: December 31st, 2011, 0:09 
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again the adapter you found is not IDE what makes you think it is ? I don't understand your logic. The description is: NEW SCA 80 ADAPTER TO 68PIN ULTRA SCSI II/III CONVERTER . I actually have a few of these since I know what they are for and how to use them. I think you need to send the drive to a pro if you need recovery the more you tinker with it the less likely recovery will be.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: December 31st, 2011, 13:08 
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athlesi7 wrote:
...the drive is recognised in bios but the drive is clicking and cannot boot to OS.


That's not a good sign.
Does it show the correct capacity in BIOS?

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: January 4th, 2012, 5:05 
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It shows the correct capacity. showing the wrong capacity is a bad sign?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: January 4th, 2012, 5:28 
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Use Linux and just clone from one device to the other

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: January 4th, 2012, 10:47 
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athlesi7 wrote:
It shows the correct capacity. showing the wrong capacity is a bad sign?

Yes

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: January 8th, 2012, 18:20 
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guru wrote:
Use Linux and just clone from one device to the other

i tried with centos live, but the hdd is still not recognised...is there any other way except pc3k?
thank you


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: January 8th, 2012, 18:24 
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athlesi7 wrote:
i tried with centos live, but the hdd is still not recognised

Can you attach a file with the complete dmesg output from a boot of Centos, with that drive connected? It's odd that the BIOS recognises the drive, but you're saying that Centos doesn't...


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: January 9th, 2012, 7:46 
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YOU should know that SCSI hdd`s has their own init. power-on sound
clicking on scsi might be normal (in general) but might be bad sign of bad sectors

by using Linux OS if bad sectors are there, you should see it during boot process
dmesg will report what exactly needed here

>> dmesg |more

and have a look

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: January 9th, 2012, 14:28 
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@einstein9:

I think we're agreed that the dmesg output is a good place to look for some more detail :) - except I also want to see that output, not just for the OP to have a look at it. :)

@athlesi7:

In case I wasn't clear before (I used the word "attach" when perhaps it would have been clearer for me to say "upload") - will you be able to collect the (complete) dmesg output from a Centos boot with that disk attached, and upload / attach that to your forum reply, so that we can see it?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: January 10th, 2012, 5:14 
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i attached the pics of how the CentOS hangs with the SCSI drive. i tried to ghost the HDD. during the ghost the drive is recongnised and when you select the drive to be imaged is shows a msg with bad sectors and make restart.

thank you for your time again at my issue


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: January 10th, 2012, 10:25 
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athlesi7 wrote:
i attached the pics

Thanks.

athlesi7 wrote:
CentOS hangs with the SCSI drive

This is the first time you have mentioned hanging :( - previously you just said the drive was not recognised.

I see that you are using an Adaptec HBA. I have never used them under Linux, so I have not investigated their driver options. Looking at the error messages on Centos, it seems that Domain Validation (which sends multiple Inquiry commands) might be the part which is hanging.

If I was in your situation, I would investigate what options are available in the Linux driver for that HBA, and disable any functionality (including domain validation) which is not essential (including recompiling the HBA driver to disable functionality, if needed, where options are not provided for control when loading).

Also, just to be sure, you have definitely terminated that SCSI bus correctly, haven't you?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: January 10th, 2013, 9:13 
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Hi guys

I also got this adapter: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170400395451? ... 1439.l2649

This is the first time I use it, but the SCSI card is OK (I have used it before with a 68 pin SCSI drive).
The problem is that the HDD is recognized by the card, but not on windows. I must say that the HDD is OK, no problems. I just want to get a folder from it, because the server where it was working had a problem and doesn't work.
One other thing: the HDD doesn't power up. Is this normal??

Is there any configurations missing?? Any experience on this?

Thanks

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Ultra320 SCSI converter suggestions
PostPosted: January 10th, 2013, 9:18 
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Nevermind, problem solved ehehehe

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