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 Post subject: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: December 28th, 2011, 21:04 
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Hi i new to the forum hope everyone had a nice xmas...can anyone give me some advice i have a WD10EADS-00M2B0 EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE 1TB the drive started off reading data real slow when browsing now when i turn it on it clicks once then several very faint clicks then a clonk the drive keeps spinning with no further click or noise but will not show up in windows is this a simple diy fix pcb swap or is this something more serious,thanks in advance for any replies.ps i tried another wd drive in the enclosure which works fine...


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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: December 28th, 2011, 21:48 
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This is something serious. To confirm how serious, a professional diagnostic is necessary.

Unlikely it is a PCB issue, therefore a simple swap won't solve the problem.

Likely read-write components, which is not DIY.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: December 28th, 2011, 23:39 
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Sounds like read/write heads failed.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: December 29th, 2011, 4:03 
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Heads. Game over for DIY.


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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: December 29th, 2011, 10:24 
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heads bad vote for me too


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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: December 29th, 2011, 10:31 
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Hi thanks for the reply guys..shame i understand the complexity of modern drives and the skill needed to work on them however i am a computer technician with 10 years exp and could not afford the cost of data recovery what are the difficulties of head replacement on these WD10 EADS DRIVES specifically the pitfalls....do the heads need realigned ? or is there other obstacles preventing a head swap


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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: December 29th, 2011, 10:41 
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Properly doing head swaps on these models and getting the drive to work after is difficult even for some of the seasoned pros.

I would not recommend trying if you value your data


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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: December 29th, 2011, 10:47 
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With respect, a computer technician is not a data recovery expert, no matter how good a technician they are.

As a dentist is not a neurologist, no matter how good a dentist he is.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: December 29th, 2011, 11:01 
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Hi guys yea totally understand know how complex these modern large capacity drives are just grasping at straws...whats an average price for recovery with this type of head failure some prices i've seen are just silly prompting the need to attempt it myself lol


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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: December 29th, 2011, 12:07 
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With respect, I don't know what prices you've seen but expect to spend some hundreds of pounds and that is not 'silly'.
I am not going to discuss the reasons for the DR prices here, but I think a range of 600-900 pounds for this particular drive is more than fair.

I second other guys' posts, the chances you get working data on this drive if you attempt this on your own are zero.

Whatever you do, good luck.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: January 2nd, 2012, 5:59 
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pawea wrote:
Hi guys yea totally understand know how complex these modern large capacity drives are just grasping at straws...whats an average price for recovery with this type of head failure some prices i've seen are just silly prompting the need to attempt it myself lol

Others have used the dentist versus neurologist analogy. I would add that, as there is no official accreditation body for data recovery, then it is not easy to find someone whose ability can be verified. This is why I suggest you use the following company as a yardstick:

http://myharddrivedied.com/

The proprietor is Scott Moulton who is arguably the most well known DR professional. Look him up on YouTube. He advertises a fixed price of US$800 plus parts, which is a good price for invasive jobs.

That said, ISTR that someone in another thread suggested that a similar model may have been affected by a "PCB-head-mimic" problem. If this is a possibility, then a board swap and "ROM" transfer may be all that is required. However, before doing anything, I would gently clean any oxidisation from the preamp contacts on the PCB using a soft white pencil eraser.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: January 2nd, 2012, 6:51 
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It is not mimics. It is heads. These drives don't get affected by mimics problem.

Scott would say that too, I'm sure.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: January 2nd, 2012, 9:31 
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Maybe there is NO problem at all. Wait and see.


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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: February 1st, 2012, 11:15 
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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: February 1st, 2012, 11:20 
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fzabkar wrote:
The proprietor is Scott Moulton who is arguably the most well known DR professional.


I agree he is probably the most well known, but this is not an indication of his abilities.


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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: February 1st, 2012, 12:23 
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didn't he actively promote salvation data tools in some of his tutorials? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
PostPosted: February 2nd, 2012, 4:22 
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HDD Spaz wrote:
didn't he actively promote salvation data tools in some of his tutorials? :lol:

That's exactly my point ... almost. He has a visible body of work (ie tutorials, demonstrations, presentations, data recovery course) so we know that he can do what he says he can. In fact he has taught several members of this forum.

By way of contrast, how do you propose we assess your own qualifications and abilities, or those of anyone else in this forum?

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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
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fzabkar wrote:

By way of contrast, how do you propose we assess your own qualifications and abilities, or those of anyone else in this forum?


Simple. We do as Scott did and create our own 'certified' data recovery courses, complete with certificates and a set of SD head change tools :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
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fzabkar wrote:
HDD Spaz wrote:
didn't he actively promote salvation data tools in some of his tutorials? :lol:

That's exactly my point ... almost. He has a visible body of work (ie tutorials, demonstrations, presentations, data recovery course) so we know that he can do what he says he can. In fact he has taught several members of this forum.

By way of contrast, how do you propose we assess your own qualifications and abilities, or those of anyone else in this forum?



My bank balance 8)


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 Post subject: Re: WD10 EADS ADVICE
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Difference is, we DON'T want our abilities evaluated.
I don't dismiss Moulton's abilities, but I strongly believe there are people in this forum with knowledge in DR field that Scott will never have (not even 1/3 of it).

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