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 Post subject: Reading chips and flashing to others
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2012, 7:06 
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Hiya there
Still pretty new here and have a thirst for knowledge so excuse the questions...

Rather than taking the chips and transplanting them to a new board, cant you read them and flash it to a new chip? Or is it that you can only read the chips if they not programmable....?

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 Post subject: Re: Reading chips and flashing to others
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2012, 7:16 
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If the Rom is on the 8 legged chip then its easier to desolder & move accross to a donor drive.
If the Rom is embedded then you need specialist tools like PC3000 UDMA, Atola or Salvation Data Disk Doctor.

Loki


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 Post subject: Re: Reading chips and flashing to others
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2012, 7:20 
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Sorry - i dont understand what embedded means....?
Is that where the info is on the disk itself?

Im learning.... Mine of information this site is :D


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 Post subject: Re: Reading chips and flashing to others
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2012, 7:32 
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Some PCB boards have the unique drive info on a larger chip ie that has a big M on it. This chip would be dificult to desolder & swap due the to amount of pin/legs it has. Also if you damaged it in the process it would require a dr pro & be costly, if it could be done at all?


Loki


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 Post subject: Re: Reading chips and flashing to others
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2012, 8:22 
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loki wrote:
Some PCB boards have the unique drive info on a larger chip ie that has a big M on it. This chip would be dificult to desolder & swap due the to amount of pin/legs it has. Also if you damaged it in the process it would require a dr pro & be costly, if it could be done at all?


Loki


What about chipquik desolder, would that work in this case?


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 Post subject: Re: Reading chips and flashing to others
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2012, 9:45 
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electroglow wrote:
chipquik desolder


Getting a sample of this stuff to see how it performs, will let you know how testing goes.

Best Logical


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 Post subject: Re: Reading chips and flashing to others
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2012, 10:23 
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Yes, if you have the skills, it's cheaper to just desolder and resolder, but you risk damaging the chip. We use Chipquick on some cases and an infrared solder station on others. I prefer just moving the chip, especially in cases where there is substantial damage to the pcb.


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 Post subject: Re: Reading chips and flashing to others
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2012, 16:03 
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Here is a way to read/write the chips in-circuit using a device programmer:
read-write-serial-flash-wdc-logic-boards-t7192.html

Alternatively, you could use PonyProg freeware, but you will need to build a simple interface circuit:
http://www.lancos.com/prog.html

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