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 Post subject: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 24th, 2012, 20:09 
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Hi Guys
Desperately seeking a PCB or whole drive..Dont care what country its in..
seagate
st380013as 80GB
p/n 9w2812-688
hda p/n 100355438
firmware 3.00
site code TK
I know its old but it has the only copy of my accounting file on it..

Regards Dale


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 24th, 2012, 20:35 
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What are the symptoms of the current problem, which make you believe that a PCB will allow access to that file?

What has happened between the last time the drive was working, and the first time you notced that the drive had a problem?

Has the drive been in a USB enclosure, or always inside a PC?

Does the drive spin-up when power is applied? Do you hear any other noises?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 24th, 2012, 21:29 
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Vulcan wrote:
What are the symptoms of the current problem, which make you believe that a PCB will allow access to that file?

What has happened between the last time the drive was working, and the first time you notced that the drive had a problem?

Has the drive been in a USB enclosure, or always inside a PC?

Does the drive spin-up when power is applied? Do you hear any other noises?


Thanks for the reply..
Im a tech..And i blew up my own drive.!!!!!
Board has smoked.!! I was building myself a new box and went to plug this drive in to copy data without realising it was running...spark ..smoke..dead.!
YES i do pay more attention to customers systems :)


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 24th, 2012, 22:21 
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Did you check the TVS diodes ?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 24th, 2012, 22:27 
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networks wrote:
Did you check the TVS diodes ?


For ?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 24th, 2012, 22:43 
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From User on Forum "fzabkar" See http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/TVS_diode_FAQ.html ... and http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/bi ... diodes.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 24th, 2012, 22:53 
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networks wrote:



Yes i think it is one of the TVS diodes but i doubt i could get anyone out here in the bush to repair it.
Also dont know what else its killed ??


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 24th, 2012, 23:13 
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@balemo,

As networks points out, you can check the TVS diodes (if any, on that PCB) and, depending on skill / equipment / time etc., you could perform other checks of the PCB.

However, based on the part number that drive seems to be SATA. The TVS should not be affected (nor would you have seen sparks) if all you had done was to correctly hot-plug a SATA drive. So (talking from a non-DR electronics background) the story isn't making sense for me - something seems to be missing. :(

I don't know that model of drive, but remember that you may not simply be able to swap the PCB from another drive, with your PCB. You would need to either research this yourself or wait for one of the other readers to advise. Supplying a good-quality close-up photo of the component side of the PCB (it doesn't need to be multi-megabyte, however) would help readers to understand what you are dealing with.

Finally, since you seem to be heading down the DIY route (with its associated risks, especially if you haven't identified why you got the sparks in the first place), remember the possibility that damage was not limited to the PCB, and do take ESD precautions. Good luck!

P.S.. If you don't want to discuss the current situation and just want to get a PCB or drive, then you should probably post your request in the Hard Drive Market section of the board.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 25th, 2012, 11:51 
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balemo forgive me but you indicated your a "tech" that tells me you "may' know how to check a diode with a meter. The links I sent you have all the info you need to hopefully get the drive running to get the data off it. test each one if its "bad" remove it see if the drive spins up its really not that difficult. If you don't have backups then that is really your next task to get completed and thus you won't need this forum to recover data lost.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 25th, 2012, 12:06 
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@networks,

FYI when I made my previous posting, balemo's reply saying "i think it is one of the TVS diodes" wasn't showing (due to being held in moderation, as it included links from your posting). I would have written something different, if it had been showing...

Since you're on top of this one, and the basics of that FAQ don't seem to be applied by the OP, I'll leave it with you. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 25th, 2012, 12:28 
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Vulcan

I didn't want to step on any toes here. If you want to "lead" on this one that's fine with me didn't realize you preferred to be the single point of contact. I just am amazed at his responses based on his OP. I will stand down. Take care


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 25th, 2012, 13:50 
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@networks,

"I will stand down." - No, no, no! I meant it when I said I think you've got this one in hand (and I'm being ignored in terms of requesting a photo anyway). Where is the "I am being sincere and think you'll do better than me with this issue" icon? :)

I only replied after you mentiond TVS, as you were offline. While waiting for the OP to reply, I thought it was worth mentioning that a photo would be helpful, and that a SATA power connector is hot-plug capable, so the sparking is unexplained - unless a Molex power connector was involved but not mentioned, perhaps? However the OP's (quite vague) TVS comment wasn't visible at that point, and since that is what you had been telling him about, I wouldn't have commented if I had I seen that from the OP, as there was a clear "train of thought" going on.

I shouldn't have got involved, sorry :( and there's no point in both of us getting vague replies (or none at all in my case), especially if my comments aren't actually helping. See you on another thread, OK?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 25th, 2012, 14:00 
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I have intentionally hot-plugged SATA drives in the past with no problems whatsoever. Sometimes system froze but that's the biggest complication I had so far.

I agree with Vulcan that there is something missing here. Possibly PSU is really bad.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 25th, 2012, 19:32 
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Sorry It seems like ive upset a lot of people here...
1. I joined and posted in here as i found other people looking for pcb's in this section in a google search..I have now moved it to the hdd market.
2. I am a computer tech with a computer shop. Electronic technician is a different field, in Aus anyway.
3. Why it sparked and smoked i dont know,Lack of care on my part i suppose.rushing to throw a box together for myself.
4. I have successfully replaced 4 PCB's in the past on customers drives. Will it work for this one i dont know but i must try.
Thank you for your passionate responses..how did we ever survive without the internet.

Regards Dale


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 26th, 2012, 5:33 
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I don't think you upset anyone; :D
1. That is a wise move, you get high chance someone will have this pcb for you.
2. Everywhere in the world too (I guess).
4. It will work if you do it correctly. Assuming there is no other damage to drive (preamp etc), swap pcb+ROM and you'll be set.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 26th, 2012, 18:16 
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@balemo,

It's probably my fault for injecting other comments into the thread, when your reply was not visible (as well as some vagueness in your replies :) ) which has caused the frustration here (apologies to networks again).

Regarding your questions - just to add one comment to the helpful reply from northwind:

3. Without knowing exactly how / why that sparking happened, then how do you know you won't also cause damage to any replacement PCB (e.g. PSU or wiring problem)? That would be my worry, if I was in your situation - I'm just surprised you don't seem to want to investigate this further. But it's your disk and your data, so it's your choice what you investigate. :)

Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 27th, 2012, 3:18 
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Vulcan wrote:
@balemo,

It's probably my fault for injecting other comments into the thread, when your reply was not visible (as well as some vagueness in your replies :) ) which has caused the frustration here (apologies to networks again).

Regarding your questions - just to add one comment to the helpful reply from northwind:

3. Without knowing exactly how / why that sparking happened, then how do you know you won't also cause damage to any replacement PCB (e.g. PSU or wiring problem)? That would be my worry, if I was in your situation - I'm just surprised you don't seem to want to investigate this further. But it's your disk and your data, so it's your choice what you investigate. :)

Good luck!

PSU i now dead..hot swapping or anything when not taking any notice of what your doing can result in problems.I should have plugged external power supplyinto the drive before plugging into the wall...I dont know which part of i f####ked up you didnt understand.!!!!!!!!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate st380013as pcb desperate
PostPosted: February 27th, 2012, 14:45 
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balemo wrote:
I dont know which part of i f####ked up you didnt understand.!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understood that part perfectly. It's the potential effect on your replacement PCB/drive, which I was trying to highlight.

balemo wrote:
PSU i now dead..

This is the first time you've said the PSU is now dead, as far as I can see. Anyway from your first response it seems you're getting frustrated, so I'll stop further participation in this thread.


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