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 Post subject: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 27th, 2013, 8:04 
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Hello,

due moving platers to donor hdd, i think i have lost alignment of platters, i have microscope, how can i alignment it again, on this platters are a lot family fotos about 300gb. I'm sure that's pcb, heads and motor are good on donor hdd, tested before, have transfered fw chip, all what need to do, just alignment is problem.

Please, help me to recover them, need to alignment them.

Any solution?


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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 27th, 2013, 9:32 
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"just" the alignment!!!
If you moved your platters and they out of sync, then you're out of data...for good.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 27th, 2013, 10:01 
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Data is no longer accessible due to technology design, sorry.

Did you mark the platters with some checkpoints? If you did that, and given no physical media damage has occured, then potentially it can take a lifetime of fiddling until the alignment is correct.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 27th, 2013, 11:23 
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i made tool for transfering plates to donor hdd, but my brother has touching tool and botom plate has dropet of tool, just for 1cm fall, no damage, but problem is aliagnment. I have not made checkpoint, i think i dont need it, some members here are talking about aliagnment with microscope, can it be done and what must i see? Is there some point or something? Can i read plate by plate if i put plate in wd3200bevt and read it, so do with second and third... can it be done? I have set two partitions to drive, second was 100gb, there are my first backup, it is on end of hdd, which plate is it? I need these files, please help...


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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 27th, 2013, 13:41 
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BlackST on this forum may be able to help you.

It is expensive . . .

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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 27th, 2013, 14:35 
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Sadly, yet another DIY "botch job" gone wrong :-(

Your chances of recovery are slim at best, even by a decent pro.

I guess your photos were not important, no-one in their right mind would embark on such a difficult mission not having a clue what they are doing, with anything that meant anything to them.

So basically YOUR chances are ZERO of recovery by more "DIY botching"

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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 27th, 2013, 15:43 
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I have some non-conventional ideas but in this case I don't feel too confident it can work : skew + imbalance + eccentricity + maybe micro damage. Add DIY environment, and near zero budget. What do you get ?
In any case microscope is of little help.


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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 27th, 2013, 18:08 
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i know very much in microelectronic, work most time with arduino, pic,...i just dont know system how this work, i have thinked that i buy another hdd, same company, in this case western digital, if 1tb hdd have 3 platters, 320gb have only one platter, so maybe i can place one by one platter and there no need to alignment, just need to edit firmware in chip, may i have right?


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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 27th, 2013, 18:18 
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zmatija wrote:
i know very much in microelectronic, work most time with arduino, pic,...i just dont know system how this work, i have thinked that i buy another hdd, same company, in this case western digital, if 1tb hdd have 3 platters, 320gb have only one platter, so maybe i can place one by one platter and there no need to alignment, just need to edit firmware in chip, may i have right?


Absolutely not, hard drives don't work like that.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 27th, 2013, 18:22 
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Ehm... NO.
Hint : if you have a DDA or a digital storage scope in the 2 GHz range + differential probes, USE IT.


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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 28th, 2013, 11:58 
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Send to Frank...he'll fix it for $20. ;)

On a more serious note. This is another unfortunate case where DIY myths have resulted in a much more serious issues and a very expensive price, if recoverable at all. I suspect you are now looking at a five digit price quote from most labs...with an up front fee for the attempt.

Should you decide to go the route to prove us wrong and successfully recover your data, please report back and let us know.

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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 28th, 2013, 17:26 
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Coincidently, I had a case today where every single head was broken off and the broken sliders stuck on the platters, out of reach.

1Tb WD USB, 3 platters 6 heads.

Platters removed, sliders picked off and platters replaced and re-aligned....

New heads...

Cloning now :-)

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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 28th, 2013, 17:42 
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pcimage wrote:
Coincidently, I had a case today where every single head was broken off and the broken sliders stuck on the platters, out of reach.

1Tb WD USB, 3 platters 6 heads.

Platters removed, sliders picked off and platters replaced and re-aligned....

New heads...

Cloning now :-)


Nice work :D
I'll share with you how to remove sliders without platter removal...in private! :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 31st, 2013, 5:58 
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have another question, i have wd320bmvv, by the hearing, motor can't start to spin, i think that heads had stick to platters, can i solve this by replacing pcb or need to go to clean room? Any idea?
That wd10tmvv will not repair, to expencive to me.


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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 31st, 2013, 6:06 
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Have same question : is it yours or from customer / someone else ?


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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 31st, 2013, 6:08 
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zmatija wrote:
i think that heads had stick to platters, can i solve this by replacing pcb


Is this a real question??? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 31st, 2013, 6:33 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBRH7bO5 ... e=youtu.be


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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 31st, 2013, 7:33 
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zmatija wrote:
have another question, i have wd320bmvv, by the hearing, motor can't start to spin, i think that heads had stick to platters, can i solve this by replacing pcb or need to go to clean room? Any idea?
That wd10tmvv will not repair, to expencive to me.

It's not a PCB issue

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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 31st, 2013, 7:38 
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what is? need professional repair?


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 Post subject: Re: WD10TMVV platters alignment
PostPosted: January 31st, 2013, 7:41 
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Internal problem. Spindle is jammed. Pro has to open and investigate why exactly.

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