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ceckin

Post subject: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 19th, 2013, 11:35

Joined: May 14th, 2011, 19:39
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Location: Bulgaria

Guys i came accross an old Seagate HDD and it has bad sectors. I know that this drive is unreliable, but i want to mark all the bad sectors and use whats's left for a game console HDD (non-important files). Is there a software that enters the sector numbers in the P/G-Lists for Seagate drives?

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ceckin

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 19th, 2013, 17:03

Joined: May 14th, 2011, 19:39
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Location: Bulgaria

Thanks but i value my time and i'm not a cave men to start writing down numbers. I found the following solution by Spidit:

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Drives that are from the F3 Arch will not have Self-Scan code on them, like older Seagate drives used to have, so the best that you can do is, using the terminal :

1 - Clear the G-List with F3 T>i4,1,22 command.

2 - Do a full media scan with the F3 T>m0,8,2,,,,,22 command.

It will take some hours and this will move the bad sectors into the P-List.

3 - Do a SMART reset under level 1 with F3 1>N1 command.

4 - Then do a full erase and a sector scan under Windows/DOS. You can use MHDD for this.

The whole topic (if anyone come accross the same problem with 7200.11) is here.

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BlackST

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 21st, 2013, 1:46

Joined: July 18th, 2006, 3:05
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Location: ITALY

It DOESN'T WORK if you have certain problems and lists are NOT rebuilt properly especially with consecutive UNCs or DSWs - exits with error after some retry and you have an inoperational drive. If it ends you likely have slow sectors here and there or bad blocks reappear when using the drive. BEWARE.
P.s. This is particularly true on slim 250/320 and on 1TB+.
P.p.s. Definitive solution require dedicated/proprietary gear not simple hyperterminal.

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flydr4g0n

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 21st, 2013, 2:07

Joined: May 28th, 2013, 16:21
Posts: 24
Location: Romania

BlackST wrote:

and to ADD to this

It might take forever to complete the format ... doesn`t worth keeping a computer on to format the drive for weeks

For me AC power went off 2 times since i tryed to format it like that and had to start allover again , i won't even bother anymore . I will use the drive to test various commands just for learning purpose

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BlackST

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 21st, 2013, 2:28

Joined: July 18th, 2006, 3:05
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Location: ITALY

And it didn't work, right ?
(RETRY xx and eventually end with an error).

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flydr4g0n

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 21st, 2013, 3:47

Joined: May 28th, 2013, 16:21
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Location: Romania

BlackST wrote:

And it didn't work, right ?
(RETRY xx and eventually end with an error).

with m0,8 it would hang at 5% LBA: 000FFF00
with m0,9 goes past that sector , but didn`t see the format finished cuz AC power went off in the meantime and the UPS gone empty after 20mins :roll:

before m0,9 second time i set from Set Retries - DERP (Level 2, 7, A, F 'Y') to 5

Code:

"SetDerpRetries, Y[Mode],[MaxRdRetries],[MaxWrtRetries],[OtcTLevel],[Options]";

Code:

0 - Error Recovery Mode.
    
        This parameter specifies the error recovery mode to be used.  The following
        error recovery modes are available:
    
             0 = Maximum Normal
             1 = Maximum Full
             2 = Default Normal
             3 = Default Full
             4 = Minimum Normal
             5 = Minimum Full
             6 = Simple
    
        The Maximum Error Recovery Modes (0 and 1) are typically used for system
        information recovery.
    
        The Default Error Recovery Modes (2 and 3) are typically used by the native
        interface.
    
        The Minimum Error Recovery Modes (4 and 5) are typically used for diagnostic
        and media certification operations.

maybe i will try one more time , hoping the electricity doesn`t go off :lol:

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BlackST

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 21st, 2013, 5:29

Joined: July 18th, 2006, 3:05
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Location: ITALY

You are wasting your time fiddling with parameters, anyway. At factory, things are done in a definitely different way !

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ceckin

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 21st, 2013, 6:14

Joined: May 14th, 2011, 19:39
Posts: 5
Location: Bulgaria

Nope it worked fine, all the sectors were cleared and added to the G-List.

Sadly the HDD's problems might be the heads (to be precise i'm seeing a very high Spin Retry Count number in S.M.A.R.T), because i ran the same test from MHDD, on the same region and i got >500ms at different sectors every time i run it. All in all the drive is in pretty good shape, but this random >500ms are always causing system freezes.

@BlackST

Yeah pretty sure that's the case, but i wanted to try and see if i could do something. I don't have $10k laying around to get the gear and there's no need for me to do so, on a drive that costs $50 brand-new.

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BlackST

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 21st, 2013, 7:26

Joined: July 18th, 2006, 3:05
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ceckin wrote:

1) If you still have SLOW sectors >500 ms on the same region the drive is NOT WORKING FINE. The command ended but the result is poor. NOW you have just "slows", sooner it will become worse.

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2) The problem is NOT heads.

3) Even if you buy PC3000 UDMA or similar tool you won't fix it.

What I wanted to point out is the fact that the use of "m0" command in every flavor as definitive solution to fix surface problems on .11 and above , "as is" , is total BS.

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flydr4g0n

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 21st, 2013, 17:18

Joined: May 28th, 2013, 16:21
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Location: Romania

@ BlackST

So PC3000 can't fix 7200.11 , but what will ?

@ ceckin

How many sectors we talking about ?
if not too many , you can try to add them manualy in G-list , mark them as bad , and the LBA before and after the 500ms> sector , then merge G to P from terminal

If i don't mistake there is a option in MHDD to MAKE BAD sectors ( and i assume they go in G-list)

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BlackST

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 21st, 2013, 23:56

Joined: July 18th, 2006, 3:05
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If it is a single isolated block, MAYBE. If you have consecutive errors or something like X X X X in MHDD your idea doesn't work (see what happens : reaching that area when rescanning, the drive is slow, freezes etc.). This happens a lot on 250 and 320, don't ask me why.
Hint : how defects are managed on pre-F3 ? (to clarify yourself...) .
Final note : I trade real info for real info (not DEJA MOO or copy/paste) if you have something interesting OR want a list of what I am working at / looking for, let me know. OK?

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flydr4g0n

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 22nd, 2013, 7:04

Joined: May 28th, 2013, 16:21
Posts: 24
Location: Romania

ok but my ideea , what you think about it ?

let`s say u have 20 -30 500ms> sectors when scanning with mhdd , u save the log , then manually mark bad those sectors and ones with 1LBA before and after those sectors . wouldn`t that isolate the defects better ? i mean , u end up with 90 BAD`s in glist and then u can try to merge G into P via terminal

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BlackST

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 22nd, 2013, 7:08

Joined: July 18th, 2006, 3:05
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Location: ITALY

Simply doesn't work and the reasons are many.
Try it and use the drive or try it and rescan and see.

(P.S. each drive is different maybe your drive is lucky).

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flydr4g0n

Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Bad Sector repair/mark

Posted: July 22nd, 2013, 7:20

Joined: May 28th, 2013, 16:21
Posts: 24
Location: Romania

BlackST wrote:

Simply doesn't work and the reasons are many.
Try it and use the drive or try it and rescan and see.

(P.S. each drive is different maybe your drive is lucky).

ok , the drive i have , has more , it will be a pain in the ass to manual mark them bad then try moving them in Plist

and send that list IN , what u looking for and working at :mrgreen:

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