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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 2nd, 2014, 21:03 
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I would first confirm that writing NVRAM to a drive with PC3000 does not recalculate the checksum. I wonder how many threads about non-spinning drives we would have if that would be true.

It's definitely stated in one of the older UDMA manuals that the NVRAM checksum algorithm varies across different Hitachi models and requires a plug-in. Whether that is still the case for the latest version of PC3K is for others to confirm.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 2nd, 2014, 21:14 
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I would first confirm that writing NVRAM to a drive with PC3000 does not recalculate the checksum. I wonder how many threads about non-spinning drives we would have if that would be true.

It's definitely stated in one of the older UDMA manuals that the NVRAM checksum algorithm varies across different Hitachi models and requires a plug-in. Whether that is still the case for the latest version of PC3K is for others to confirm.

So you suggesting there is no need to confirm that? Or it's relevant somehow else? Or you guys just want to figure out the algo? I thought recovering data was the priority here, sorry, my mistake. It's not the first time I would watch somebody killing somebody else's drive and take money for that.

From what I see my suggestion would be same old one: "take it to a pro"

PS: if moderator thinks I'm a little impudent here - I apologizes for that, feel free to delete my posts.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 2nd, 2014, 21:26 
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deftrue wrote:
both NV-RAMs have a XOR-8bits sum equal to zero (1 byte) ...
This mini-test, however, points towards a consistent NV-RAM.


The checksum algorithm has already been figured out, with no risk to anyone's data. The test method I proposed involved a working donor, not the patient.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 3rd, 2014, 2:04 
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Doomer wrote:
fzabkar wrote:
Doomer wrote:
I would first confirm that writing NVRAM to a drive with PC3000 does not recalculate the checksum. I wonder how many threads about non-spinning drives we would have if that would be true.

It's definitely stated in one of the older UDMA manuals that the NVRAM checksum algorithm varies across different Hitachi models and requires a plug-in. Whether that is still the case for the latest version of PC3K is for others to confirm.

So you suggesting there is no need to confirm that? Or it's relevant somehow else? Or you guys just want to figure out the algo? I thought recovering data was the priority here, sorry, my mistake. It's not the first time I would watch somebody killing somebody else's drive and take money for that.

From what I see my suggestion would be same old one: "take it to a pro"

PS: if moderator thinks I'm a little impudent here - I apologizes for that, feel free to delete my posts.


The regular word" take it to pro". But, he has some limitation to outsource this case, may be next similar case he can, as a pro he would get some logical/serious explanation or at least there should be CONFIRMATION that this case can be solved based on this issue otherwise there is no reason he sends it . It's not the matter of fact that I am replying on this one. The matter of fact is that, whenever it's NV-RAM issue of these series, no one has been able to answer a FRUITFUL answer that it can be fixed to recover data. No One means NO PRO answered so far, also you can see my previous thread which was not answered. There are cases I get but being blind I can't outsource drives to someone to waste time & money while the case will be unsolved.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 3rd, 2014, 3:43 
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I am not sure a Pro would give "CONFIRMATION that this case can be solved ".

Until you look at it, it is Guesswork. Maybe educated guesswork, but still guesswork.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 3rd, 2014, 5:25 
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well, I didn't mean of solid confirmation as all the cases are unique. lets assume the fads has only issue with NV-RAM, nothing else. then can u deal? have u been able to fix any case regarding nvram on arm? lets assume there r other issues also, but forget it. just assure nvram can be fixed or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 3rd, 2014, 6:26 
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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 3rd, 2014, 8:37 
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just assure nvram can be fixed or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 3rd, 2014, 9:03 
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shahij wrote:
well, I didn't mean of solid confirmation as all the cases are unique. lets assume the fads has only issue with NV-RAM, nothing else. then can u deal? have u been able to fix any case regarding nvram on arm? lets assume there r other issues also, but forget it. just assure nvram can be fixed or not.


NVRAM can be fixed. Period.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 3rd, 2014, 13:02 
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BlackST wrote:
shahij wrote:
well, I didn't mean of solid confirmation as all the cases are unique. lets assume the fads has only issue with NV-RAM, nothing else. then can u deal? have u been able to fix any case regarding nvram on arm? lets assume there r other issues also, but forget it. just assure nvram can be fixed or not.


NVRAM can be fixed. Period.


That's the answer I was seeking for. That's nice. I hope you are referring to ARM series.

The purpose was to make sure there is/are way exist to regenerate/recalculate the SA starting location of ARM series so far. I had no luck with ARM series for NVRAM fixing with the usage of SD tool.
That's a good point at all that at least I can recommend my clients to BlackST & DR-Kiev with this problem.
Thanks all.

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Thanks for bringing me back... :)

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 3rd, 2014, 13:15 
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Shahij , your ONLY problem in this very case is that you use an outdated and limited tool, in my opinion.

I see you ask a lot of questions about dead ends mainly on SD tools : again, in my opinion, that way you can only deal with old drives and knowing ALL the limits of such tools.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 4th, 2014, 1:53 
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BlackST wrote:
Shahij , your ONLY problem in this very case is that you use an outdated and limited tool, in my opinion.

I see you ask a lot of questions about dead ends mainly on SD tools : again, in my opinion, that way you can only deal with old drives and knowing ALL the limits of such tools.


I understand there are lot of limitation with the SD tools I use. Still I try to figure out the way to maximize it's usage, though it limits! Let's see when I can enter to PC3K family. Hoping that DFL could bring some light soon. PERIOD. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: February 4th, 2014, 14:34 
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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi ARM DT01ABA100 bad NV-RAM
PostPosted: January 18th, 2015, 17:41 
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Good day fellas,

I don't mean to hijack the thread but could someone please share the modules for the Toshiba DT01ACA100? I can't find them anywhere and this thread is the only thing I could find on the drive. Full resources would be fantastic!


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