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 Post subject: HP SAS hdd
PostPosted: February 13th, 2014, 15:16 
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Hello
Anyone have a professional manual for HP SAS PCB repair?
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 Post subject: Re: HP SAS hdd
PostPosted: February 13th, 2014, 16:01 
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databack wrote:
Hello
Anyone have a professional manual for HP SAS PCB repair?
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A manual? You are kidding, right? Based on the question, I suggest you outsource to a data recovery professional.

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 Post subject: Re: HP SAS hdd
PostPosted: February 13th, 2014, 16:50 
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If you can upload a detailed photo of the component side of the PCB, I can show you the voltage test points.

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 Post subject: Re: HP SAS hdd
PostPosted: February 15th, 2014, 11:09 
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fzabkar wrote:
If you can upload a detailed photo of the component side of the PCB, I can show you the voltage test points.

Thanks for your replay


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 Post subject: Re: HP SAS hdd
PostPosted: February 15th, 2014, 11:49 
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SAS drives rarely have PCB issues. What test have been performed indicating a PCB failure?

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 Post subject: Re: HP SAS hdd
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HDD power failure and replace PCB with same without change BIOS. Have a clicking sound!

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 Post subject: Re: HP SAS hdd
PostPosted: February 15th, 2014, 12:30 
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Can't confirm off the top my head for that SAS model drive, but I would have expected a straight PCB to not cause clicking. I will see if I can find this drive and replicate this test.

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 Post subject: Re: HP SAS hdd
PostPosted: February 15th, 2014, 17:06 
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The first thing I notice is that the date code on the PCB does not match the manufacture date on the label. Is the photo showing the patient PCB or the donor?

The model number, MBD2147RC, is a Fujitsu/Toshiba drive.

I have attempted to identify the circuit components and voltage test points as best as I can, but there will quite possibly be errors. If you could identify the markings on the various ICs, I could probably do a little better.

I would start by measuring the voltages across each of the TVS diodes. The +12V supply should appear across the capacitor below the 12V diode. If it doesn't then check the associated fuse (?).

Check the voltage at the output of the Vio buck regulator. You can either measure the voltage at the coil, or across the appropriate capacitor(s).

Measure the voltage between pins 8 (Vcc) and 4 (Ground) of the Winbond flash memory. This should be either 2.5V or 3.3V.

Check the voltage at the output of the Vcore buck regulator. I expect that it would measure around +1.2V.

Above the Vcore regulator is what looks like the negative supply for the preamp. Check for -5V at the test point.

Measure the voltage across each of the larger capacitors around the motor controller. One will probably be the boost capacitor (+18V ?) for the VCM circuit.

In the top left corner is what appears to be another buck regulator. Once again you can either measure the voltage at the coil, or across the appropriate capacitor(s).


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 Post subject: Re: HP SAS hdd
PostPosted: February 16th, 2014, 10:14 
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Hi fzabkar
Thank you for your answer.
This is pictures of 2nd SAS HDD (RAID 0 with a previous HDD)
The problem of this HDD is many bad sector and I can not get correct image.
What is your analysis for this?


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 Post subject: Re: HP SAS hdd
PostPosted: February 16th, 2014, 17:35 
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Your second drive has the same date code inconsistency as the first. I confess I don't understand this. As for bad sectors, I can't see how that could point to a PCB fault. Instead it looks more like a media or head fault.

On the plus side, you have two identical PCBs that should make troubleshooting relatively easy.

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 Post subject: Re: HP SAS hdd
PostPosted: February 17th, 2014, 11:34 
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This drive are known for heads and media issues, seldom is a PCB. MHO is dead heads


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