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 Post subject: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: July 31st, 2014, 2:07 
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So, I didn't realize that WD encrypted their external HDs. I busted mine open, because it stopped working, and threw away all of the external components (including USB adaptor). My question is, is there any chance of recovering the information on that hard drive?

It was a 2 TB WD My Book Essential. Internal HD (WD20EARX or WDEARS). Figured the model number isn't important though so didn't look it up this moment.

I have not reformatted the hard drive as Windows wanted, so right now it just shows up as RAW.


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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: July 31st, 2014, 3:06 
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You maybe need the part like the one posted in this post...
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29088

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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 1st, 2014, 3:31 
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Hm, not sure what I need. Since I don't even have access to the USB adapter, I have no idea if there is anyway to get one. Can someone help me out?


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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 1st, 2014, 3:39 
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You will need to find a similar bridge board (or USB adaptor as you called it) to decrypte your data inside the HDD.

And as Frozwire suggsted, there's a link posted by Loki to purchase it online.

http://www.harddrivesforsale.com/4061-7 ... board.html

You need to make sure it is compatible with your HDD model though.

I think there's a model number or some sort on the board itself but since you threw it away, you will need to do some googling and find out the numbers so you don't buy the wrong one.

It should look something like this "4061-705089-001".

Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 1st, 2014, 3:49 
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Forgot to mention that this is the item I bought it December 2012:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041OSQBG/


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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 1st, 2014, 4:05 
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Hello squishy,

if you don't have enough knowledge then is better to find some pro data recovery service near you to recover your data.
Everything depends on how important and valuable are data on this drive


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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 1st, 2014, 6:08 
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You have few solutions:

1. As jerovsek said, it's better to consult a good DR company, if you value your data. I recommend http://www.datasaversllc.com/ (ask for Jon). They will do this for you for a reasonable fee. Assuming your drive is OK in terms of mechanics and no other damage is done apart from the missing box/adapter etc, it shouldn't cost an arm and a leg.

2. Go DIY if you don't value your data, and accepting the fact that if you make things worse (ie. data unrecoverable or expensive to recover), it is OK with you.
In that case, you can buy a USB bridge/adapter from ebay, assuming you know at least the type of bridge your drive originally had. If you don't know this, the you have two sub-options: a) Find a way to retrieve the SA from your drive and post here the two encryption modules (you 'll need special tools for this) or b) buy all adaptors :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 22nd, 2014, 22:05 
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OK, I'm confused. All I have is the HD. I don't know anything else about the controller board. How many different controller boards are there for the My Book 2TB Essential External Hard Drive? Is there a 100% guarantee that if I find the same version of controller board for my device that it would work? I asked WD for that information but they say they don't have it. I find that weird that they can't pull that information up.

I have the WD sticker on the top that shows it's model WD20EARX.
The S/N is WCAZAH056385
On the back of the hard drive, there is a chip board with the following information:
2061-771698-T04-AA
xc bef5 16ns e 0005070 3075

Are any of those useful to me in my search?

Actually, now that I think of it. There was a lot of my most important data encrypted with True Crypt. If I could find a matching Controller Board, wouldn't I still lose access to that data or no?

I don't want to pay a data recovery service. I want to figure this out for myself, if that is even possible.

Also, I'm curious as to how a data recorvery place can do it when I can't? Is there software needed that I can get, the same as what they use?


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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 22nd, 2014, 22:15 
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I'll tell you what, after this, I will NEVER buy an external HD again. Only thing I would do is use one of those toaster devices and make the internal external. I can't believe they purposefully make it this hard to recover data.


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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 22nd, 2014, 22:21 
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I don't think this is a DIY job, frankly. Even if you had the original bridge board, it wouldn't enable access to your data if the drive has firmware, head or media issues. The first job is making the drive readable, then you can worry about getting the right bridge board to enable access to the data, which is encrypted by a chip on the board. Making the drive readable can be non-trivial, but if you are lucky and the problem is only bad sectors, you might be able to clone the drive with ddrescue, which is very good at recovering data from bad sectors. The clone would then replace the faulty drive and you would access your data via the bridge board. Because you have further encrypted the data with TrueCrypt, bad sectors anywhere within the encrypted volume means game over as far as data recovery is concerned, I think.

If you are not lucky, the problem is with firmware or read/write heads, neither of which you would be able to deal with unless you have been into data recovery for some time and have the required recovery equipment, experience and skills. If you are really unlucky, your DIY efforts might just ruin any chance that a data recovery pro can recover your data.

Good luck, in any case.

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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 22nd, 2014, 22:31 
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According to WD's warranty check, the Model No / Product Name are ...

WDBACW0020HBK-NESN
2 TB My Book Essential

https://wdsupport.wdc.com/warranty/warr ... d=03583185

Try searching for a board for a "WDBACW0020HBK". That should narrow down the possible candidates.

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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 23rd, 2014, 2:17 
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In my opinion the problem is not just the absence of a usb-board.
An healthy encrypted drive never shows it self as RAW and want to re-format it self, it will just show in disc management as unallocated space.

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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 23rd, 2014, 4:22 
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@squishy, can you retrieve the drive's firmware modules?

http://sediv2008.narod.ru/Easy3.9Passwo ... 567890.rar

Can you see the drive in BIOS?

Can you retrieve its SMART data with CrystalDiskInfo?

Did you initialise the drive in Windows? (Don't do this -- initialisation is data destructive.)

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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 26th, 2014, 3:19 
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Hi there,

What you are trying to do is really interesting and ambitious, but WD My Book is hardware encrypted and it is not recommended to remove the drive from the enclosure. Unfortunately your HDD is not recognized by your OS and that is why you see it as RAW. If the information in the drive is valuable, I strongly recommend you to consult Data Recovery Company. I leave you some more information below.
In fact, your actions could make the data recovery even harder, so if you plan to save the data, I suggest you to stop any attempts and contact Data Recovery. If you wish to try and repair the drive by yourself, you should know that there is no method that gives you 100% success chance, but there is a high possibility that you damage the drive even further.

http://support.wdc.com/recovery/index.asp?lang=en – WD data recovery partners

Hope this helps


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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 26th, 2014, 18:40 
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@R2D2_WD, could you please tell us in what capacity you are employed by or represent WD?

Could you explain why Western Digital does not offer its own internal data recovery service, but prefers to rely on independent external service providers?

Could you also tell us what constitutes a WD "partner"?

IIUC, WD's "partners" are not provided with spare parts by WD, nor are they given access to WD's internal technical documentation or factory diagnostic tools. Instead these "partners" have to source their components from the secondhand market, their hardware tools from various external manufacturers, and their software tools from third parties who develop them from stolen, leaked, or reverse engineered information (that observation comes from a Seagate employee involved in data recovery).

By way of analogy, let's consider a car manufacturer with a network of "partners" (aka dealers). If I take my car to one of these dealerships, I know that it will be serviced with new factory parts, and I can be confident that the people who work on my car have been trained to a minimum standard by a recognised and accredited educational institution. Moreover, these professionals will most likely have attended seminars provided by the manufacturer whenever new products are released. They will have access to the manufacturer's diagnostic tools, both hardware and software, and they will have full factory service manuals.

Now let's compare this professional arrangement to what exists in the data recovery game. We have a network of "partners", none of whom have a recognisable data recovery certification (because none exist). They learned their trade by practising on cars in their backyards until they decided they were good enough to go into business. These people go scrounging for their spare parts in wrecking yards because the car manufacturers only service cars by replacing them, during the warranty period, with refurbished vehicles. What's more, they can never be certain that a spare part from one vehicle will work in another because the manufacturer can't, or won't, tell them. Instead they have to rely on experimentation, trial and error, or consultation with other partners. Their manuals, if they have any, are provided by third parties who have developed them after stripping down a vehicle into its component parts.

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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 26th, 2014, 19:33 
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Seems like a cynical view Franc, but pretty accurate. Though I guess another part of the Analogy is that some of these backyard Mechanics are pretty damn good.

FWIW, I have had to take cars I have had repaired or serviced back to "Authorised repairers" and In particular I drove a Brand New Iveco stralis 550 and we took that back for many repairs to Iveco Service Centre and I got the impression they had NFI what they were doing.

I personally believe it comes down to the individual person doing the job, and all the creditations/Brand Names/plaques on the wall cant be an indicator of the job that will be done on your device at a certain point in time.

Reputation holds quite a bit of weight as well.

As for DR, Until the Data Storage vendors start publishing spare parts catalogues, service manuals that are detailed and accurate for each model, and do training sessions... nothing is going to change.

I cant see a DR certification really helping anyone.


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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: August 27th, 2014, 5:20 
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I'm cynical, but with legitimate reasons.

I've been involved in tech support for most of my working life, at all levels, in several countries. I also ran my own international technical support business. In the old days you could get service manuals and spare parts catalogues that were the size of the telephone books of small countries. In fact Seagate Singapore gave me many such books for free. However, the most I ever got out of WD were two-page tech notes, if that.

Even today, all that is available for download from WD's web site is little more than marketing pap. For example, we are told, in tiny lettering at the bottom of WD's HDD "datasheets" that IntelliPower is a "finely tuned blend of blah blah blah". I even found one datasheet where the writer had PhotoShopped an image of another drive and edited the model number. What gave it away was that the model number had a typo.

For many years I was a regular participant at WD's forum. One particular thread sticks in my mind more than any other. A WD user was concerned about an ever increasing raw read error rate SMART attribute. He had contacted WD's tech support but they were unable to allay his concerns. They then escalated the problem to WD's engineers, or so he was told, and he subsequently posted their response to the thread. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that WD's tech support had cut-and-pasted a section from a technical document that I had written and posted on my web space. What made it worse was that my article was written specifically about Seagate's peculiar SMART attributes. WD's attributes were completely different.

What I got out of that thread was an inside picture of WD's organisation. To me, the fact that WD's tech support staff had to look to the Internet for information about their own products suggests that they are privy to no more technical information than people outside the company. Hence my question as to what constitutes a "partner", and what kind of "support" WD brings to the partnership.

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 Post subject: Re: WD External HD USB adaptor gone - recovery?
PostPosted: September 7th, 2014, 2:43 
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The HD works fine, I was just an idiot and took it out of it's case and threw the case away without thinking about it. Alright, well I'm just going to have to destroy it then.

1) There are multiple revisions for this model's controller board. So, DIY won't work unless I'm willing to spend $500-$1,000 for each revision.

2) Unless a data recovery company has all the different revisions on the controller board, they are not going to be able to recover the data either.

Well, I learned some valuable lessons, wish I didn't have to lose a decade's worth of files but I need to let it go so I stop making myself sick over it.

I will 100% never buy an external HD again unless it's for my laptop & is one of those passport HDs. I will backup my files twice and I will only use internal HDs for my desktop (no clue why I even used an external HD to begin with as it never moved).

Thanks to those who tried to help. I really appreciate it.


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PostPosted: September 7th, 2014, 6:52 
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The closest thing I recommend is to find the controller board near the year the drive was made, but also with a hard drive with more less the same SN as the one you have, that controller board might work, otherwise just buy several different boards and try them out. One of them is bound to work and it should not damage your drive or cost that much on ebay.

I believe that WD external drives are all encrypted, so its best to stay way clear of that manufacture for hard drives. I have no idea why they encrypt data like that. I never touch WD.


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PostPosted: September 8th, 2014, 10:50 
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fzabkar wrote:
@R2D2_WD, could you please tell us in what capacity you are employed by or represent WD?

Could you explain why Western Digital does not offer its own internal data recovery service, but prefers to rely on independent external service providers?

Could you also tell us what constitutes a WD "partner"?

IIUC, WD's "partners" are not provided with spare parts by WD, nor are they given access to WD's internal technical documentation or factory diagnostic tools. Instead these "partners" have to source their components from the secondhand market, their hardware tools from various external manufacturers, and their software tools from third parties who develop them from stolen, leaked, or reverse engineered information (that observation comes from a Seagate employee involved in data recovery).

By way of analogy, let's consider a car manufacturer with a network of "partners" (aka dealers). If I take my car to one of these dealerships, I know that it will be serviced with new factory parts, and I can be confident that the people who work on my car have been trained to a minimum standard by a recognised and accredited educational institution. Moreover, these professionals will most likely have attended seminars provided by the manufacturer whenever new products are released. They will have access to the manufacturer's diagnostic tools, both hardware and software, and they will have full factory service manuals.

Now let's compare this professional arrangement to what exists in the data recovery game. We have a network of "partners", none of whom have a recognisable data recovery certification (because none exist). They learned their trade by practising on cars in their backyards until they decided they were good enough to go into business. These people go scrounging for their spare parts in wrecking yards because the car manufacturers only service cars by replacing them, during the warranty period, with refurbished vehicles. What's more, they can never be certain that a spare part from one vehicle will work in another because the manufacturer can't, or won't, tell them. Instead they have to rely on experimentation, trial and error, or consultation with other partners. Their manuals, if they have any, are provided by third parties who have developed them after stripping down a vehicle into its component parts.


Hi, fzabkar

Data recovery requires, as you probably know better than most people, in depth knowledge of partitions, file systems and formats. And these all vary by OS. Data Recovery companies have in depth knowledge of this type of stuff, so it is better to rely on a proven company with some experience on the field. Data Recovery partners can vary. WD works with some of the largest data recovery companies to help them understand how our drives work, providing information about the physical specs of the drives, which is handy when trying to help with recovery.
These companies have to send an application of their recovery room specs such as the level of clean room they have, etc. After the application is approved, they appear on the list on the WD web site. In other words, Western Digital selects and approves those data recovery companies and works alongside them when it comes to new technologies, new drives, etc.
Going back to your first question. I am an official WD representative.


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