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 Post subject: Anyone can help me with my questions please?
PostPosted: November 14th, 2014, 0:34 
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I plan to start a data recovery business in 2015 but im still learning and practicing all that stuff at the moment.

I have a few questions, any advice is appreciated.

1. If I want to buy the tools like the platter removal tool or things like that, is ebay the best place to find most data recovery tools or you would suggest to me some other supplier?

2. Any good data duplicater device that can skip bad sector that I could get for under 2000$ ?

3. What are the price for the PC-3000 tool, like their standard product ( the udma I think?). And is it only purchasable from the company website or there is reseller from which I could get a better price or just buy it used.

4. Ive hear on the web that it is required to have a real clean room in order to open storage devices and some others mentioned that you can only use a Work Flow Benche and be careful to avoid dust getting in the drive. What do you think about it?

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone can help me with my questions please?
PostPosted: November 14th, 2014, 1:35 
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Sounds like you need to do more research before stepping into a data recovery business. A few emails and web searches could easily answer all your questions.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone can help me with my questions please?
PostPosted: November 14th, 2014, 1:48 
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Thanks for your reply, I understand I can get answers on the web but I am asking here on this forum so people who have expertise in this field can give me their valuable advice or opinion. Isnt it the point to ask questions in a forum.

For example , i know there is a lot of data duplicator device but how can I know which one would be a good investment for the money?

Also what I find quite disappointing with a message like yours, is that instead of writing that, with just a couple of extra lines you could had helped me.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone can help me with my questions please?
PostPosted: November 14th, 2014, 3:21 
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1. If I want to buy the tools like the platter removal tool or things like that, is ebay the best place to find most data recovery tools or you would suggest to me some other supplier?
A: EBay is a great place to dump your unwanted DR junk onto some newbie. The best place to buy tools is from the manufacturer with a warranty and support.

2. Any good data duplicater device that can skip bad sector that I could get for under 2000$ ?
A: If that's your budget stick to free software solutions.

3. What are the price for the PC-3000 tool, like their standard product ( the udma I think?). And is it only purchasable from the company website or there is reseller from which I could get a better price or just buy it used.
A: Contact Ace and get a quote. No one is going to sell you a used unit.

4. Ive hear on the web that it is required to have a real clean room in order to open storage devices and some others mentioned that you can only use a Work Flow Benche and be careful to avoid dust getting in the drive. What do you think about it?
A: I couldn't imagine working on an open drive without a clean room. My success rate would be hit and miss.

This business is not for the cheap...

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone can help me with my questions please?
PostPosted: November 14th, 2014, 10:00 
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SolidSnake wrote:

2. Any good data duplicater device that can skip bad sector that I could get for under 2000$ ?
For that price you could get a used DDI or Atola Bandura. Stay away from SalvationData junk.
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4. Ive hear on the web that it is required to have a real clean room in order to open storage devices and some others mentioned that you can only use a Work Flow Benche and be careful to avoid dust getting in the drive. What do you think about it?
You could look for something used on eBay, or build your own, but doing so only makes sense after acquiring more knowledge, experience, capital and customers. Partner with a DR pro for those jobs that require the expensive tools and the skills to operate them.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone can help me with my questions please?
PostPosted: November 14th, 2014, 11:21 
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LarrySabo wrote:
SolidSnake wrote:

2. Any good data duplicater device that can skip bad sector that I could get for under 2000$ ?
For that price you could get a used DDI or Atola Bandura. Stay away from SalvationData junk.


Yes agree, used DDI3's are starting to come up for sale.

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4. Ive hear on the web that it is required to have a real clean room in order to open storage devices and some others mentioned that you can only use a Work Flow Benche and be careful to avoid dust getting in the drive. What do you think about it?
You could look for something used on eBay, or build your own, but doing so only makes sense after acquiring more knowledge, experience, capital and customers. Partner with a DR pro for those jobs that require the expensive tools and the skills to operate them.[/quote]

Also agree. Especially with partnering a pro for physical jobs to start with, don't try and run before you can walk :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone can help me with my questions please?
PostPosted: November 14th, 2014, 13:39 
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Super, thanks a lot for the help guys. And just so you guys know better my intention; I do computer repair since three years and I plan to slowly move to DR business. That will of course take time, and I do understand you need a great amount of knowledge and thats why I take some time everyday to learn. I asked for tools suggestion because I know im going to gather DR tools slowly with time instead of a massive investment.

Thanks again, and will check the DDI and Atola Bandura for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone can help me with my questions please?
PostPosted: November 14th, 2014, 13:56 
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There are also Dolphin Data Lab tools you could consider. They are far from a PC3K but their DFL FRP-WD and SD should enable you to do many firmware repairs, which is the sensible skill to acquire after logical recoveries and before physical recoveries. DDL are in the process of developing other modules that are incorporated into the FRP by firmware updates, for Hitach and Toshiba drives, IIRC.

Their DDP is also worth considering; it's a USB 3.0 imager (much like a DDI) that also incorporates a number of firmware repair features. At $3,300 USD though, it's a questionable purchase for you. They have a USB 2.0 version called the DFL-DE with similar features but a much slower transfer rate of course. It would be useful if you have more time than money, and it can be upgraded to the DDP for the difference in price. DDL's licenses are also transferable, which reduces the risk of investment.

DDL support is terrific, and they provide their customers with many very helpful videos and documents on the use of their tools. They target DR start-ups like yourself (and myself) and offer 5 remote sessions to their users to resolve cases on their (your) tools. They are constantly upgrading/enhancing their tools, they have a helpful user forum, and updates are free for three years then something like $300 for some period after that.

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