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 Post subject: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 12th, 2009, 9:15 
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Hi!

My name is Dany and I´m from Argentina. There are no real good data recovery service here in my country, and I have a dead SATA-2 Hitachi hard drive with very important data in it. I killed it in the foolest way: using it like a mobile drive without carrying case.. :oops: and accidentally touching the PCB with the metal part of the case.. I know, I know.. soooooo stupid. :roll:

I think the problem is the PCB, not the mechanical part but.. I bought 5 drives of same brand and model, exchanged PCBs, but none does the job (Firmware mismatch, I think).

I would like to know:

1) Regardless of PCB, firmware, etc.. can the data in the platters be read in other drive of same brand/model/head count ? I have 2 right now working ok, none (Even the dead) has been opened.

2) Considering my lack of tools and knowledge.. what data recoverer do you recommend, hddgurus? I read about myharddrivedied.com in Woodstock, GA.. but opinions are welcome.

If you need any other info in order to give a disgnostic, just ask :wink:

TIA, hddguru.com rocks!
Dany Bones


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 12th, 2009, 9:19 
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You have to rewrite NV RAM on donor PCB with NV RAM from failed drive. Or swap the ROM chip.

If data is important why not ship the hard drive to the Brazil, USA or Mexico. We have members from Mexico (Beto) who I am sure will be able to help you.

I've just booked flights to Argentina to set up a data recovery lab. No competition, woohoo! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 12th, 2009, 9:41 
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HDD Spaz wrote:
You have to rewrite NV RAM on donor PCB with NV RAM from failed drive. Or swap the ROM chip.


I think it´s impossible for me. Hotswap can work, or we better stay calm? :?

HDD Spaz wrote:
If data is important why not ship the hard drive to the Brazil, USA or Mexico. We have members from Mexico (Beto) who I am sure will be able to help you.


Well, I´ll try to contact Beto via PM. I really thank your recommendation!

HDD Spaz wrote:
I've just booked flights to Argentina to set up a data recovery lab. No competition, woohoo! :lol:


Really? Here are a couple of honest people who doesn´t have resources.. and a lot of "chantas" (Guys with great advertisement and talking.. and no more). I would like to set up a data recovery lab, do you have an idea of costs?

Thanks!
Dany Bones


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 12th, 2009, 10:40 
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Hot swap wont work.

Beto knows his stuff.

Approx 50 000 USD and around 5 years of research.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 12th, 2009, 11:25 
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Guess why there are no DR services... Maybe no market?


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: January 20th, 2012, 6:09 
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Hi:

My problem is very similar but I listen 11 beeps on Hard drive and won't spin. I would like if I can swap a HDP725050GLA360 PCB with the same 2 first lines on white sticker PCB

I will appreciate any help to solve this problem

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: January 20th, 2012, 6:50 
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oemb29,

I don't think your problem is same as OP.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: January 20th, 2012, 16:15 
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Completely different problem.

Not PCB

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: June 8th, 2012, 6:37 
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Dear All,
i have also same hard drive and problem.
i had changed many pcbs but problem is still exist,
i want to ask one question that is it mandatory to keep same(original) ic of hdd.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: June 8th, 2012, 10:29 
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"Same" problem meaning what exactly?

Need detailed description of what the drive is doing in order to get suggestions from members.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 15th, 2015, 3:29 
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Hello All,
I have a simillar problem, Native PCB is BAD.
I have replaced the matching ROM Ver. PCB and was able to do NV RAM Adjustment ( SA SEARCH ) and find NV RAM.
With Adopted NV RAM is able to get SA access. Have written the NV RAM found from SA still unable to get the drive id.
Its unable to load the OPEN MODULES.
Help appreciated

Selected family......................... : HDx7210SL
Model by ID............................. : <ID IS NOT READ>

Techno mode key......................... : Ok
NV-RAM reading.......................... : Ok

Loading modules table................................................. : Ok
Loading the table of "open" modules................................... : Error
Error : .............................................................. : Error executing loading "open" modules dir command

Loading zone allocation table......................................... : Ok


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 16th, 2015, 10:20 
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If everything has been done correctly in terms of compatibility, then it seems like there is also a firmware problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 16th, 2015, 13:31 
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Spildit wrote:
ROb wrote:
Hello All,
I have a simillar problem, Native PCB is BAD.
I have replaced the matching ROM Ver. PCB and was able to do NV RAM Adjustment ( SA SEARCH ) and find NV RAM.
With Adopted NV RAM is able to get SA access. Have written the NV RAM found from SA still unable to get the drive id.
Its unable to load the OPEN MODULES.
Help appreciated

Selected family......................... : HDx7210SL
Model by ID............................. : <ID IS NOT READ>

Techno mode key......................... : Ok
NV-RAM reading.......................... : Ok

Loading modules table................................................. : Ok
Loading the table of "open" modules................................... : Error
Error : .............................................................. : Error executing loading "open" modules dir command

Loading zone allocation table......................................... : Ok



Ok, let's see does ANY of the PCBs (native or donor) have a ROM chip ? If so can you DUMP the ROM content with external programmer ? I ask this because there might be a version of "NVRAM" code on external ROM chip.

When you replace the PCB and you adapt the NVRAM you gain access to the modules ? Can you read ALL the modules or does any of them have error ? Can you post the log of the PC-3000 reading the modules from SA ?

Maybe the NVRAM code doesn't contain the correct PBA location of the modules or the module directory/"road map" can't be found ? If you have written to the NVRAM chip but the donor PCB have external ROM chip maybe it's loading NVRAM code from a copy on ROM ?


Well,
To Add To Spildits Post i Would Ask What Tool Are You using Sir ?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 16th, 2015, 13:57 
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@ everyone ,
Please create separate threads for your problems ,Let us handle one problem of the thread creator in one thread

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 18th, 2015, 8:03 
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Hi
I am using PC-3000 UDMA
SPLIDIT neither the Donor nor native have a external ROM on it. Else it would have been much easier to start it.
The MPU itself looks faulty to me as whichever PCB this MPU is fixed that PCB stops functioning.
Following is the log.

Loading data for correction of HDD family handling settings from section MEM_P


Selected family......................... : HDx7216PL
Model by ID............................. : <ID IS NOT READ>

Techno mode key......................... : Error



Selected family......................... : HDx7216PL
Model by ID............................. : <ID IS NOT READ>

Techno mode key......................... : Error



Selected family......................... : HDx7210SL
Model by ID............................. : <ID IS NOT READ>

Techno mode key......................... : Ok
NV-RAM reading.......................... : Ok

Loading modules table................................................. : Ok
Loading the table of "open" modules................................... : Error
Error : .............................................................. : Error executing loading "open" modules dir command

Loading zone allocation table......................................... : Ok

Module RSVD Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module RSVD Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module RSVD Copy F...................... : Error
Module USAG Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module USAG Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module USAG Copy F...................... : Ok
Module PSHT Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module PSHT Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module PSHT Copy F...................... : Ok
Module RDMT Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module RDMT Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module RDMT Copy F...................... : Ok
Module CNSL Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module CNSL Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module CNSL Copy F...................... : Ok
Module RWCN Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module RWCN Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module RWCN Copy F...................... : Ok
Module CHNM Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module CHNM Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module CHNM Copy F...................... : Ok
Module SRVP Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module SRVP Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module SRVP Copy F...................... : Ok
Module SRVM Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module SRVM Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module SRVM Copy F...................... : Ok
Module ALTC Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module ALTC Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module ALTC Copy F...................... : Ok
Module ZONE Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module ZONE Copy F...................... : Ok
Module PTRT Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module PTRT Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module PTRT Copy F...................... : Ok
Module RAM0 Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module RAM0 Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module RAM0 Copy F...................... : Ok
Module OVR1 Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module OVR1 Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module OVR1 Copy F...................... : Ok
Module SMRT Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module SMRT Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module SMRT Copy F...................... : Ok
Module MLBA Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module MLBA Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module MLBA Copy F...................... : Ok
Module SECI Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module SECI Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module SECI Copy F...................... : Ok
Module SRIF Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module SRIF Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module SRIF Copy F...................... : Ok
Module SERL Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module SERL Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module SERL Copy F...................... : Ok
Module IDNT Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module IDNT Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module IDNT Copy F...................... : Ok
Module DCOT Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module DCOT Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module DCOT Copy F...................... : Ok
Module BULK Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module BULK Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module BULK Copy F...................... : Ok
Module PTCH Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module PTCH Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module PTCH Copy F...................... : Ok
Module SSPT Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module SSPT Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module SSPT Copy F...................... : Ok
Module ##01 Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module ##01 Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module ##01 Copy F...................... : Ok
Module ##02 Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module ##02 Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module ##02 Copy F...................... : Ok
Module ##03 Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module ##03 Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module ##03 Copy F...................... : Ok
Module ##04 Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module ##04 Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module ##04 Copy F...................... : Ok
Module ##05 Copy 0...................... : Ok
Module ##05 Copy 1...................... : Ok
Module ##05 Copy F...................... : Ok
Module PESD............................. : Ok
Module SRST............................. : Error
Module SSSC............................. : Ok
Module SSCD............................. : Ok
Module NVRC............................. : Ok


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 18th, 2015, 15:32 
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ROb wrote:
I have a simillar problem, Native PCB is BAD.
I have replaced the matching ROM Ver. PCB and was able to do NV RAM Adjustment ( SA SEARCH ) and find NV RAM.
With Adopted NV RAM is able to get SA access. Have written the NV RAM found from SA still unable to get the drive id.
Its unable to load the OPEN MODULES.
Help appreciated

Selected family......................... : HDx7210SL

I'm not a data recovery professional, but doesn't the HDP725050GLA360 model look more like an HDx7250GL than an HDx7210SL?

I'm not sure that it would make any difference to the ID problem, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 19th, 2015, 0:35 
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Hi
Sorry SPLIDIT may be its my mistake put this into a wrong thread i mean the MODEL.
My Model HDT721016SLA380.
ROM Chip is BAD can't Read even on external programmer ( May be somebody tampered it )
Even patient PCB is also BAD.
After adapting With Donor i am able to read the NVRAM Copy from SA for use.
As i don't have the original copy i can't compare with it.
Is there a way to use this NVRAM to start the drive or try another version of ROM ?
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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 19th, 2015, 8:44 
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Offcourse i am using the NVRAM from SA (Plater) on the NEW of DONOR PCB


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 19th, 2015, 18:16 
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Can you upload the NVRAM contents?

Does PC3K produce an NVRAM report? If so, what is the value of the "FW boot flag"?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi 500Gb - HDP725050GLA360 - Dead PCB?
PostPosted: May 21st, 2015, 4:14 
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This may be an ignorant question, but if the drive's "FW boot flag" is configured to boot from the F copy of the SA, wouldn't the absence of an F copy of the RSVD module cause a problem?

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