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 Post subject: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VIDEO]
PostPosted: July 25th, 2015, 6:44 
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Seagate Barracuda 3TB
(HDD 1 Failed drive)
Model: ST3000DM001
PN: 9YN166-500
Fw: CC4B
WWN: 50000C50051079887
Date: 12465 Site: SU

PCB: 100664987 REV A

A couple of days ago my HDD didnt appear in windows. (my computer is always on)
so i shut it down, took it out, and it was warm, almost too warm to hold.

OS is located on another HDD
The HDD in question is only data storage. (personal pictures. videos etc.) most is backed up, but a lot of it is not.

now when i try to plug it in, i get this. (see video)(i use a usb hub adapter plugged into a usb 3.0 port - Plugged in with sata, i get only the initial sound up to about 10 seconds in the video before it spins down after about 7 tries)

I thought i was in luck, i had bought the same HDD at a later point, but upon closer inspection, it wont help me too much, as it is very different it would seem.

(HDD 2 Healthy Drive)
Model: ST3000DM001
PN: 1CH166-306
Fw: CC29
WWN: n/a
Date: 1463 Site: WU

PCB: 100717520 REV B

Anyone recognise by the sounds its making whats going on?
- what is the logical step to do next?
- Are there programs i can use to try to backup the RAW data or clone the disc, even when the disc cannot be recognized in windows or in bios?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 25th, 2015, 6:45 
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on a side note, im new to this forum, so hi :)


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 25th, 2015, 7:50 
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It's almost certainly a physical issue, nothing to be done DIY :-(

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 25th, 2015, 7:52 
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Hi, if the drive spin up and does some retries and the spin down it most probably a head(s) issue, not a DIY.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 25th, 2015, 8:44 
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Seems something happend to the video upload, here is a link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/86ddumzvbrbck ... e.mp4?dl=0


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 25th, 2015, 19:36 
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pcimage wrote:
It's almost certainly a physical issue, nothing to be done DIY :-(

Yeah, does not look good. Need a really good diagnosis, likely involving cleanroom.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 26th, 2015, 17:53 
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hey man, I've literally just posted a topic (that's under review!) with exactly the same sort of clicking. I've opened mine up to show what the heads are doing, I'd be interested to hear what people think about it and whether it's PCB or physical related. I'm guessing it's related to seagate's recent poor history with making drives haha!


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 27th, 2015, 21:40 
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My 3TB ST3000DM001 lasted almost 3 years. Apparently, that's practically a record or something.

Mine is doing the clicking thing a half dozen times on spin up before it spins down.

I lost hundreds of hours of repair videos that cannot be reproduced. I never seem to learn my lesson on backups.

I see Newegg has these POS for $89, and I can order a set of head combs and magnet puller from China for about $85. I figured ~$180 on attempting a head replacement might be a gamble worth playing if the odds of success are high enough.

Anybody around here able to comment on doing a head replacement on one of these guys?

Thanks,
Steff


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 27th, 2015, 22:13 
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Yeah, high chance you will not be successful because there is more in theory to learn about heads compatibility.
As result the cost will go up without significant results.
Additionally, say the head swap is what it is, it comes out great without mistakes, the bigger problem is still ahead of you.
95%+ chance the volume of the drive won't just pop up and allow files access. Matter of fact this is a rarity and for this model drive, let's just say it would be a miracle. As result, the head swap is more or less the least of problems. It is the additional issues in dealing with the drive's condition during the cloning process.
Without experience and proper tools more than likely you won't get far.
But hey, you decide.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 28th, 2015, 5:22 
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labtech wrote:
Yeah, high chance you will not be successful because there is more in theory to learn about heads compatibility.
As result the cost will go up without significant results.
Additionally, say the head swap is what it is, it comes out great without mistakes, the bigger problem is still ahead of you.
95%+ chance the volume of the drive won't just pop up and allow files access. Matter of fact this is a rarity and for this model drive, let's just say it would be a miracle. As result, the head swap is more or less the least of problems. It is the additional issues in dealing with the drive's condition during the cloning process.
Without experience and proper tools more than likely you won't get far.
But hey, you decide.


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and, it's a Grenada.. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 28th, 2015, 7:33 
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I've been dealing with bizarre disk geometries and FUBARed partition tables since Slackware in the 90's. As long as I can get it to read data I've got as much chance as the next guy, and more patience and determination than most. I've had good success in the past just doing a live disk boot of Ubuntu and running TestDisk.

I'm just curious here. Is there some sort of trade union of data recovery specialists? ... like the HVAC business?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 28th, 2015, 7:49 
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No trade union exists in data recovery.
TestDisk is not what you will need as the drive does not have a trivial logical issue.
The problems have begun occuring in relation to degradation, firmware problems and ultimately mechanical failure. This is typically the path to natural failure.
What you will need is experience with firmware and a harware imager assuming the donor heads will be compatible and the swap goes smoothly. And yeah, a cleanroom environment, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 28th, 2015, 8:16 
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We got it AnarchoSteff, you are a computer superman. Still, to deal with HDD physical/FW problems you need lots of experience, lots of testing and ruining a lot of donor drives. There are no shortcuts, sorry. All the people warning you of the risks are actually protecting your data -the value of which you are the only one to judge offcorce.
Don't get me wrong, it's only a friendly advice, if you are interested in experimenting do it on a cheep donor disk, not on the one with your data on.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 28th, 2015, 9:19 
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in addition to all the above DM series is a nightmare even for pros


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
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Even if you were to win the world first aid championships, it does not mean that you will be successful with performing a heart transplant. Assuming that you have the skills to do said transplant, you still need the resources to find and acquire a suitable donor as well as the facilities and equipment to do the transplant. But, that is not all, you also now need to have the medicine and technology to ensure that the patient doesn't reject the donor...and so, on.

Sadly, there have been many who have come to this forum posting how they can do it themselves, at a fraction of the cost of what the professionals charge. It is very rare that they come back and boast their success and more common for them to admit their failure.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
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This is the classic example of the trade union mentality of many on this forum. I don't think that AnarchoSteff is attempting to claim he can do every thing that an experienced person with a clean room and tools can do, but get him access to the raw data and it sounds like he has plenty of experience in reconstructing filesystem's and data structures.

I my self have felt this way with anwsers/help that this forum provides. No I don't have the tools & experience to repair a drive so it can be read, but if you can get me a raw image I'll put my reconstruction skills up against anyone's.

Sadly I've even offered to pay for recovery of a raw data image and no one wants the business. I don't need or want file recovery but no one wants paid for just doing work. Perhaps imaging a drive before running recovery isn't standard procedure?


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To get the image is 99% of the job, most of the time. So, the price would be the same for a file recovery and just a clone...differing only by the lab not having to worry about a no data no charge.

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So, you'd think someone would jump at the opportunity of setting the "success/pay me" bar one notch lower than usual to the image level.

Yet still haven't found any place that wants my business.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Can i recover this?[VI
PostPosted: July 29th, 2015, 1:21 
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so i talked to a friend og mine, he has a friend who works at a data recovery center in norway, called IBAS AS
if im in luck, he may be able to convince him to at least take a look at my drive

so lets say he does, how much work is this drive compared to other drives.
and from a data recovery center standpoing, what happens when it goes in there, do they have all the tools? do they need a donor drive? or do they have specialized equipment that can read most drives?

do i as a potential customer need to supply anything to make the recovery process easier?

now im just bein curious, there are not that many videos online ive seen, that shows this process.


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