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Amarbir[CDR-Labs]

Post subject: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 29th, 2015, 14:33

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Location: CDRLabs @ Chandigarh [ India ]

Hello ,
One Of My DR Recovery Colleagues In India Has Send Me One Case .The PCB Was Horrible Handled And I Am Now Stuck At One Place [ ROM Leg No 6 Just Comes Out ] . If No Ground No Data From IC .What Are My Chances Here .

Will This Work Or I Am Wasting My Time ...

1 :Get a Xray Done Of The Chip [ Can Someone Suggest What Kind Of Xray Would Be OK ]
2 : If i Do See a Small Wireline Trace i Dig Upto It And Test My Soldering Skill [ Not Bad At It Though ]
3 : Try Reading If Done Great Otherwise No Point .

Suggestions Please ...

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data-medics

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 29th, 2015, 15:46

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Sometimes you can just wedge a sharp pair of tweezers in there and make the connection long enough to read it. I know it's worked for me on occasion.

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Amarbir[CDR-Labs]

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 30th, 2015, 1:14

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data-medics wrote:

Sometimes you can just wedge a sharp pair of tweezers in there and make the connection long enough to read it. I know it's worked for me on occasion.

Brilliant Idea Jared ,
But Like This We Could Push The Wire Back .Haque ,Jermyb,Arvika Guys You Are The NAND Experts and might be getting Xray done ,Please Help

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michael chiklis

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 30th, 2015, 4:50

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data-medics wrote:

Sometimes you can just wedge a sharp pair of tweezers in there and make the connection long enough to read it. I know it's worked for me on occasion.

It worked for me too on an occasion.

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Amarbir[CDR-Labs]

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 30th, 2015, 5:03

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michael chiklis wrote:

data-medics wrote:

Sometimes you can just wedge a sharp pair of tweezers in there and make the connection long enough to read it. I know it's worked for me on occasion.

It worked for me too on an occasion.

Hi Michael ,
Thanks For Double Confirmation .I Am Currently On a Screwed up Samsung PCB And Once That is Over i Will Give This a Try .Few of My Friends At [ Flash Section ] Possibly Have Not Seen The Thread .I Really Wanted Advice of What Kinda Xray To Do With This [ Without Wasting Time And Money ] .

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galaxy

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 30th, 2015, 6:12

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I think this photo like u

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Amarbir[CDR-Labs]

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 30th, 2015, 6:32

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galaxy wrote:

I think this photo like u

Hello ,
Nothing To Like In This Photo .Pin 4 Is Ground And Already stated

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jermy

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 30th, 2015, 7:42

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Amarbir wrote:

Pin 4 Is Ground And Already stated

you said pin no. 6.

Amarbir wrote:

[ ROM Leg No 6 Just Comes Out ]

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Amarbir[CDR-Labs]

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 30th, 2015, 8:19

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jermy wrote:

Amarbir wrote:

Pin 4 Is Ground And Already stated

you said pin no. 6.

Amarbir wrote:

[ ROM Leg No 6 Just Comes Out ]

Hi Jermy ,
Was a Typo Sorry For That .Any Suggestions For a XRAY ? .

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jermy

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 30th, 2015, 8:42

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i really don't see the point for an X-ray
lets say got an X-RAY what you gonna do next with it ?
take the advice from data-medics and michael chiklis

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Amarbir[CDR-Labs]

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 30th, 2015, 8:50

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jermy wrote:

i really don't see the point for an X-ray
lets say got an X-RAY what you gonna do next with it ?
take the advice from data-medics and michael chiklis

Well,
Rest i Will Handle ,even if i have to dig to that wire manually i will do it

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jermy

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: October 30th, 2015, 9:26

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Spildit wrote:

What is the model of this Seagate drive ? It's an F3 arch, correct ?

the PCB on pic. seems like an F3, if it wouldn't then what's the big deal

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ROb

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: November 4th, 2015, 6:32

Joined: April 16th, 2008, 4:50
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Alternatively you can dig and solder a thin flexible wire to it, the way its used for Memory cards.
Generally GND Pin is a thick pin internally in my observation...

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digisupport

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: November 4th, 2015, 8:06

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If you give up send the chip to Denmark i will read it for free - just to prove my concept

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pepe

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: November 5th, 2015, 19:05

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It seems to be pharaoh to me. I think the easiest way is to solder thin wires to the chip and read. If it fails, we can recover the data without the original rom from this family.

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sathyan

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: November 6th, 2015, 1:55

Joined: August 21st, 2012, 12:15
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Silver conductive ink can be used to bond the thin strand of wire and make necessary connection , in case you cannot solder.

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jermy

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: November 6th, 2015, 4:14

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sathyan wrote:

Silver conductive ink can be used

great idea

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digisupport

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: November 6th, 2015, 6:53

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sathyan wrote:

Silver conductive ink can be used to bond the thin strand of wire and make necessary connection , in case you cannot solder.

Have done the same in a lot af cases

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Amarbir[CDR-Labs]

Post subject: Re: Seagate - ROM Physical Damage [ Ground Leg No 4 ]

Posted: November 12th, 2015, 11:01

Joined: August 15th, 2006, 3:01
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Location: CDRLabs @ Chandigarh [ India ]

Hi Everyone ,
Its Indeed a F3 .Its a pharaoh .When you Guys Says a Thin Wire [ I understand Its a Wire Out From The Dye To The Leg ] .Would This Wire Be visible If We Remove The Leg From The Body under a Scope Or Something .

@ Pepe Sir : These Days 24 Hours i Am Working On DR Sir .If You Would Be Able To Do It i Will Try And Learn To Do It Also .The Engineer In Me Never Gives Up [ Thats The Spirit The Old Man Has ] .

@ digisupport : I Will Definitely Nail This Buddy .Gimme a Day When i Can Work on This Case . Really Appreciate Your Help BTW [ No Pun Intended ]

@ Everyone : Thanks Guys This is The Essense of a Great Forum Keep It Up

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