MultiDrive – free backup, clone & wipe disk utility from Atola Technology

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 29 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 14:16 
Offline

Joined: November 1st, 2015, 14:04
Posts: 3
Location: Prague
Dear Sirs,

Only came here for a recommendations of a good data recovery service that can recover from scratched platters.

The hdd: Hitachi travelstar IC25N020ATMR04-0 P/N:08K0632.
Heads got smashed and when powered on it scratched the platters.
It came here back from local HDD recovery service with note that it's severely scratched and they won't recover anything.

If anyone is interested, I can open it up and take a photo.

Unfortunately, the HDD is from expensive tooling equipment and manufacturer refused to support this older equipment - and I left with a dead machine.

From whole 40GB HDD I need only 1MB binary file I understand that it can possibly be in the scratched region, but I'm willing to risk it if there is a chance to read out more then 10%.

Also any approximate price estimate of this service would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Petr


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 14:38 
Offline

Joined: September 29th, 2005, 4:10
Posts: 402
Location: Moscow
For recovery scratched plates requires very serious and expensive equipment.

In Japan there is a firm that deals with data recovery scratched plates.
Title unfortunately can not remember.
The name firm can be found in the support Ace-lab
Cost ~ $ 10,000


Last edited by Tomset on November 1st, 2015, 14:44, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 14:42 
Offline

Joined: November 1st, 2015, 14:04
Posts: 3
Location: Prague
Well, this is unthinkable.
I don't need any "elite" service just a hddguru member that can deal best with scratched platters.
I was more thinking of around 1k recovery service.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 14:53 
Offline

Joined: September 29th, 2005, 4:10
Posts: 402
Location: Moscow
Unfortunately it's true.
It's not the "elite", and the cost of the necessary equipment. It costs million of dollars.
If one firm with experience DR could not, others are not having the desired equipment
hardly will.
Even with such equipment Japanese firm recovers only 5-6 out of 10 cases.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 15:11 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: April 3rd, 2011, 0:19
Posts: 2003
Location: Providence, RI
Most likely with any type of scratch it's a lost cause and even if you were to commit $10,000+ toward recovery you'd only end up with a tiny fraction of the data back. It's why most data recovery companies simply refuse to deal with those cases. $1,000 I'm sorry to say isn't even going to cover the parts cost you'd be looking at to attempt the recovery. Will require dozens of donors (which will have to be painfully sourced at top $$$), probably equipment like a burnish and glide machine just to get a smooth enough surface to read anything. And, if the damage is too bad, it still won't be able to track the servo meaning you'll never get anything.

Take it as a lesson in backup. Your data is now in every sense of the expression, "in the air filter". It's gone, accept it.

_________________
Data Medics - Hard Drive, SSD, and RAID Data Recovery Service Company


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 15:38 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: September 8th, 2009, 18:21
Posts: 16960
Location: Australia
@Shef, have you tried to find other customers with the same equipment? I'm assuming that the missing file is not user data.

Can you tell us the name of the tooling machine?

_________________
A backup a day keeps DR away.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 16:07 
Offline

Joined: September 29th, 2005, 4:10
Posts: 402
Location: Moscow
fzabkar,
All information from the Ace of the firm.
The company is encrypted and is not actively advertising.
We told about this company at the conference.
It works with other firms DR. That make a primary diagnosis.
Before you contact them.
I have no customers able to pay $ 10,000
Once there, I'll figure out the details. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 19:14 
Offline

Joined: November 1st, 2015, 14:04
Posts: 3
Location: Prague
To get it from same equipment - well yes, thats possible.

I'm actively trying to find a user with same equipment for more then a year.

I got that equipment in broken state - so backup was no option even thou the scratches on platters i caused myself.

The equipment is 3D printer - Envisiontec Perfactory type I mini-multi.

The equipment doesn't have even 10k value (even thou the new machine is 80k) but as an early unit it has a huge potential for upgrades and modifications and 1MB binary file missing is pretty bad reason for me as a hardware engineer to have a non working equipment.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 20:05 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: December 4th, 2012, 1:35
Posts: 3903
Location: Adelaide, Australia
what is the name of the binary?

I would think going to many 3d printer forums etc and asking for that binary, or really asking with a degree of persistence envisiontec for this small support request might be a good strategy, if you haven't already tried. Does any other model use the same binary? is it definitely not replaceable with something else?

is this it? I think it is different, but maybe has files in common.. maybe you can ask them..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfactory-Micro-Advantage-Envisiontec-Printer-/272028710327?hash=item3f562cb5b7:g:ilYAAOSwI-BWL42i


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 20:30 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: September 8th, 2009, 18:21
Posts: 16960
Location: Australia
Maybe you just need to find someone who cares.

Try some of the old contacts:

http://web.archive.org/web/200611131719 ... hkonta.htm

_________________
A backup a day keeps DR away.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 2nd, 2015, 19:41 
Offline

Joined: October 5th, 2015, 18:53
Posts: 488
Location: US
Japan company contacts. They kind of move to Singapore.
Digital Data Solution Singapore Pte Ltd.
Tel.: (65) 6736 7483


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 2nd, 2015, 19:42 
Offline

Joined: October 5th, 2015, 18:53
Posts: 488
Location: US
Shef, please show me picture of scratches. May be I can help.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 2nd, 2015, 22:59 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: December 4th, 2012, 1:35
Posts: 3903
Location: Adelaide, Australia
drHDD wrote:
Shef, please show me picture of scratches. May be I can help.


you want him to open it up?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 3rd, 2015, 17:56 
Offline

Joined: October 5th, 2015, 18:53
Posts: 488
Location: US
Why not? It's look like died case anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 3rd, 2015, 22:06 
Offline

Joined: March 19th, 2015, 15:01
Posts: 1388
Location: isreal
doesn't seems to you a paradox ?
drHDD wrote:
Shef, please show me picture of scratches. May be I can help.

HaQue wrote:
you want him to open it up?

drHDD wrote:
Why not? It's look like died case anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 4th, 2015, 6:34 
Offline

Joined: February 8th, 2014, 8:08
Posts: 456
Location: Eastern Europe /recovering worldwide/
Shef wrote:
If anyone is interested, I can open it up and take a photo.

Better not open the drive yourself, but ask the company you contacted first, maybe they have made a clean-room photo and can send it?

If not, then try to talk with the person, who worked with your drive, and ask them whether the scratch is visible?

_________________
• Remote RAID, NAS, SAN, VMware, DVR (CCTV), flash and tape recovery. Data recovery support.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 4th, 2015, 20:59 
Offline

Joined: October 5th, 2015, 18:53
Posts: 488
Location: US
jermy wrote:
doesn't seems to you a paradox ?
drHDD wrote:
Shef, please show me picture of scratches. May be I can help.

HaQue wrote:
you want him to open it up?

drHDD wrote:
Why not? It's look like died case anyway.

It's very old ibm. If you opened it and close again even without clean room it will work for years. If TS could open drive and make photo without scratching platters by screwdriver it will be enough for me.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 5th, 2015, 11:14 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: March 6th, 2010, 3:46
Posts: 627
Location: Kolding | Denmark
++ from me - do NOT open the drive ( NEVER ) nobody in recovery business will tell you to do so.

_________________
Digitalsupport Data Recovery
https://digitalsupport.dk


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 5th, 2015, 12:20 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: February 9th, 2009, 16:13
Posts: 2574
Location: Ontario, Canada
digisupport wrote:
++ from me - do NOT open the drive ( NEVER ) nobody in recovery business will tell you to do so.

This is not true...drHDD just told him so.

_________________
Luke
Recovery Force Data Recovery


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Scratched platters
PostPosted: November 5th, 2015, 13:41 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: March 6th, 2010, 3:46
Posts: 627
Location: Kolding | Denmark
lcoughey wrote:
digisupport wrote:
++ from me - do NOT open the drive ( NEVER ) nobody in recovery business will tell you to do so.

This is not true...drHDD just told him so.



:wink: i know lcoughey - yeah need to get him back on the right track.

_________________
Digitalsupport Data Recovery
https://digitalsupport.dk


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 29 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 180 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group