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 Post subject: Re: Identifying firmware chip
PostPosted: January 25th, 2018, 16:58 
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 Post subject: Re: Identifying firmware chip
PostPosted: January 25th, 2018, 17:05 
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nanoic wrote:
I found the Marvell hdd controller becomes very hot in original board. That makes me think the board has a damaged chip although the motor can still spin.

most likely the flash ship is dead too
if so - data is unrecoverable

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 Post subject: Re: Identifying firmware chip
PostPosted: January 25th, 2018, 17:49 
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Spildit wrote:
Doomer wrote:
nanoic wrote:
I found the Marvell hdd controller becomes very hot in original board. That makes me think the board has a damaged chip although the motor can still spin.

most likely the flash ship is dead too
if so - data is unrecoverable


If so drive shouldn't spin with native PCB ....

Unless the ROM chip got damaged while moving it to the new PCB ...

yeah, missed that part :)

Yes, the drive cannot spin w/o working Marvell chip and working flash with correct FW content

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 Post subject: Re: Identifying firmware chip
PostPosted: January 25th, 2018, 22:43 
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nanoic wrote:
That chance is low as I’m a chip designer and know how to handle this. Also the donor board can spin the hard drive with its own ROM but not the ROM from the original board. That make me think the MCU might have a portion of ROM as well. Both need be matched.

Could you upload ROM dumps for the patient and donor? FWIW, I notice that some ROMs have references to a "HRK Fuse" which I suspect is some kind of Hardware Root Key or Hidden Root Key.

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 Post subject: Re: Identifying firmware chip
PostPosted: January 26th, 2018, 11:02 
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fzabkar wrote:
nanoic wrote:
That chance is low as I’m a chip designer and know how to handle this. Also the donor board can spin the hard drive with its own ROM but not the ROM from the original board. That make me think the MCU might have a portion of ROM as well. Both need be matched.

Could you upload ROM dumps for the patient and donor? FWIW, I notice that some ROMs have references to a "HRK Fuse" which I suspect is some kind of Hardware Root Key or Hidden Root Key.

PCBs are replaceable on Rosewood drives

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 Post subject: Re: Identifying firmware chip
PostPosted: January 26th, 2018, 15:31 
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Doomer wrote:
PCBs are replaceable on Rosewood drives.

Yes, the drive cannot spin w/o working Marvell chip and working flash with correct FW content.

Your statements are a little vague. Are we to understand that, in the case of a PCB failure, a straight board swap and ROM transfer is all that is required, just like a regular F3 drive?

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 Post subject: Re: Identifying firmware chip
PostPosted: January 26th, 2018, 17:55 
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fzabkar wrote:
Your statements are a little vague. Are we to understand that, in the case of a PCB failure, a straight board swap and ROM transfer is all that is required, just like a regular F3 drive?

Yes, that's what I meant

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