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einstein9

Post subject: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 29th, 2019, 7:10

Joined: May 13th, 2010, 11:17
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Location: Kuwait

Dear RAID Experts... (This includes you Vlad. aka: Dr.Kiev if interested)

I have 2 cases & need the expert advice

A-16 drives
B- 8 SAS (looks someone played with it....etc)

If someone is willing to have a look & let me know "if possible" to get the requirements out of both and let me know...

replies in PM Only

Thank you

have a good day

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Iurii

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 29th, 2019, 9:11

Joined: December 10th, 2018, 11:56
Posts: 169
Location: Ukraine

Connect all drives to one computer and check it... RAIDs are simple nowadays...

16 drives RAID may takes up to 4 hours.
8 drives RAID less than hour....

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Amarbir[CDR-Labs]

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 29th, 2019, 10:15

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einstein9 wrote:

Sir ,
Lurii is one of the developers of UFS Explorer ,His knowledge in RAID is no less then anyone ,You can pm him and he can have a peek .I have taken his support 2 to 3 times for cases ,Great man with good understanding ,Regards

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khaja_345

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 29th, 2019, 11:44

Joined: June 9th, 2014, 4:44
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Location: India

einstein9 wrote:

i think he means private massage

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S.Haran

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 30th, 2019, 16:48

Joined: February 16th, 2016, 21:07
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Location: Boston, USA

If the client can provide you with a copy of sample file that is known to exist on the RAID pre-failure then I have an automated reverse engineering technique that attempts to reconstruct the RAID based on the sample file. A good sample file is in a compressed format (.jpg .mp3 etc.) larger than (the max chunk size * number of drives).

I find this especially useful to avoid wasting a lot of time on non-recoverable cases.

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fzabkar

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 30th, 2019, 20:45

Joined: September 8th, 2009, 18:21
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Location: Australia

AFAIK, the $LogFile metafile in NTFS is usually large (64MB) and contiguous. The file consists of RCRD records, each of which is usually terminated in sequentially numbered words. I recently used two segments of this file to locate the two halves of a spanned volume. It's not an infallible method, but it proved ideal in my case.

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einstein9

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 31st, 2019, 2:35

Joined: May 13th, 2010, 11:17
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S.Haran wrote:

As i said someone played with it (what they did? not 100% sure yet)

for some reason i disagree with you here about wasting time, I already Did Found few (not needed files) but am looking @the other Arrays
which am sure its there and consists of the requirements.

Its like a Puzzle to refresh your brain and wipe out the dust from it.

fzabkar wrote:

Its really not as easy as it looks..

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fzabkar

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 31st, 2019, 2:45

Joined: September 8th, 2009, 18:21
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Location: Australia

einstein9 wrote:

fzabkar wrote:

Its really not as easy as it looks..

It seems a very plausible approach to me, although you would need to be careful.

Code:

Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F

00004000  52 43 52 44 28 00 09 00 F9 09 80 03 00 00 00 00  RCRD(...ù.€.....
00004010  01 00 00 00 0C 00 01 00 C8 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00
00004020  EA 09 80 03 00 00 00 00 D3 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00
........                          ^^^^^
00004FF0  01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1B 00 01 00 28 00 D3 0D                    <-- 0xDD3
                                                    ^^^^^

00005000  52 43 52 44 28 00 09 00 F0 0B 80 03 00 00 00 00  RCRD(...ð.€.....
00005010  01 00 00 00 0C 00 02 00 D8 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00
00005020  F0 0B 80 03 00 00 00 00 D4 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00
........                          ^^^^^
00005FF0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D4 0D                    <-- 0xDD4
                                                    ^^^^^

00006000  52 43 52 44 28 00 09 00 F6 0D 80 03 00 00 00 00  RCRD(...ö.€.....
00006010  01 00 00 00 0C 00 03 00 B0 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00
00006020  EA 0D 80 03 00 00 00 00 D5 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00
........                          ^^^^^
00006FF0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 26 00 00 00 00 00 D5 0D                    <-- 0xDD5
                                                    ^^^^^

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einstein9

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 31st, 2019, 2:53

Joined: May 13th, 2010, 11:17
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@ fzabkar

Would u like to try?

trust me... its not as easy as it looks.

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fzabkar

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 31st, 2019, 2:59

Joined: September 8th, 2009, 18:21
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Search for the RCRD records on each drive, collect all the segments, identify the corresponding LBAs, upload the bits and pieces and let us assemble the $LogFile. That's assuming your file system is NTFS.

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Arch Stanton

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 31st, 2019, 9:04

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This always strikes me as a very straight forward approach: https://youtu.be/Fw4cdQxIG84

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fzabkar

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 31st, 2019, 16:14

Joined: September 8th, 2009, 18:21
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Arch Stanton wrote:

This always strikes me as a very straight forward approach: https://youtu.be/Fw4cdQxIG84

I agree. In fact I was tempted to ask whether ReclaiMe had been tried.

https://www.reclaime.com/library/how-to-recover-raid.aspx

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lcoughey

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: August 31st, 2019, 18:52

Joined: February 9th, 2009, 16:13
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Entropy analysis with reclaime pro is super useful for quickly determining drive order and block size

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DR-Kiev

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: September 1st, 2019, 2:12

Joined: March 7th, 2009, 12:43
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Location: Angel Data Recovery

Winhex much faster, if you know how. XOR/RS blocks easily recognizable even by eyes, and button F2 is for entropy made, you can check each particular block with that option in case if eyes fail.

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einstein9

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: September 1st, 2019, 3:04

Joined: May 13th, 2010, 11:17
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Location: Kuwait

lcoughey wrote:

Entropy analysis with reclaime pro is super useful for quickly determining drive order and block size

You need to know that really i wasted alot of time with this case and got some results (not the requirements)
but i did my homework very well,,,,

Someone here had a look too, got almost the same results as mine with better results but again case is totally damaged
its good from time to time to get similar cases just to train your brain better to understand what really happened.

@fzabkar , Arch Stanton , again
This someone can tell you how good/bad is my skills now with Raid cases (if he wishes)

Thank you all again for the recommendation & comments...

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einstein9

Post subject: Re: 2 RAID cases Opinions required..

Posted: September 3rd, 2019, 2:12

Joined: May 13th, 2010, 11:17
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I believe something went missing from here, it doesn`t matter actually but i guess the point is clear now.

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