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PostPosted: May 8th, 2005, 9:56 
My opinion, noone need to agree and evrybody can disagree, is only my opinion.
I do not think that people that know something about disk do not want to share, I really do not believe in this situation.
I wrote here many times what is the problem, but seams to me that we allways will come back to the first beginning. How is possible to talk about something with people that read ( read ? ) one thing and understand another ?, how is possible to discuss something with someone that do not want to be reazonable ?.
And when something happens what allways happens is some coments ( not here in this post only, but in all posts that I already saw here ) acid, with dreams like - "they know something and do not say because they have fear" - who - honesty - will be afraid of guys that has no good sense in first moment ?. The question here is what perople will do with the knowledge - ( and this is not my coment, this is what I hear and what I'm seeing for the last 5 years ) and we are talking about knwoledge that does not comes for free ( and when I say this I'm saying knowledge that was not bothed, but knowledge that took a long time to be learned, money is easy the problem is nights and years that even GOD can not give back ) and this is the real motive of why is so hard to get help.
I ask help many times, but I can understand when I gott nothing, the problem is that here people ask help and start to ofend when do not receive it. Sometimes what is comun for one is hard to others we really need to understand that here has multicultures.
WHO TELL TO ALL OF US THAT WE DESERVE SOMETHING ?
( yes I'm including myself in this position, I have the courage that most part of people that ask for help does not have. I really did not know a line and I really need to study a lot more and I will die without know something - AND THIS IS WHAT I LEARN SINCE I START TO WORK WITH DISKS, THAT I WILL DIE WITHOUT THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE IN DISKS ).

I'm tired to put here adress to people start at least to know what to ask, people that has more knowledge comes here times to time and the say things to see if something happens and nobody understand - why ? - because the question is why not the easy way ? , just do one thing - stop to complain and start to read all posts, start to to try to understand at least what is at the messages. Do not use babelfish and think that what you are seeying is what the guy was thinking when he wrote, maybe will be amazing the difference between both things.

I ask help, If someone say something ok, if I gott nothing is ok too, nobody has the duty to teach me. If I gott something worderfull if not is also ok, maybe next time who knows ?

Ok, sometimes I even make questions that I already have the answer, why ? to everybody here had the oportunity to see the answer. We allways have new guys here. But even wen I did this was a war and this upset me, but do it again and again and again. With the hope that one day someone get the ideia. I hear one thing from an older guy last year ( the older is not ofense is respect )- "Jose sometimes we just put some seads and not all will flourish, but if one only one flourish I think that I'm already a winner."

The newest topic here is the Terminal feature of MHDD, ok.
If someone here would like to learn something about it start to think in Reverse Engineering. Start to understand ( and has a lot of comments that Dmitry wrote that will show this ) that has a lot of things that already was wrote here that can help, but nothing will come without pain without work and for free. And this comment is for me and for for everybody here. Please try to read the message and try to understand, do not take this personal nobody here is so important that deserves this.

Now - again - once more - here we go.
Try to figure out this - the hacked versions of programs that you ( this YOU is generic ) are trying to use and to fix hard disks can have a better use to you if you open it and study how the util send commands to the disks. Try to think in IDA Pro and WinHex maybe if you learn how to use this programs can be a good start. Maybe if we start to look for firmwares upgrades and there are a lot at Internet, will help us to get somnething to use with MHDD terminal, who knows ?.

Is possible to find a lot of help at websites that talks about piracy, if you can figure out that you can use the knowledge not to break programs but to break hard disks codes.

Don't loose your time, saying that Jose Pinto is good or bad, this is not important and will not change your life not for good not for bad, use the time that you will supose to do this to digg something that can help you. Later you will see that you made a better use of your time, and this - TIME - is the only thing that is ours, really ours. You will live 100 lifes and you will never see yesterday again.

Again all - you that I used here is not for an specific person but is generic, and again Please try to understand and believe, the transalator do not do the right job, do not trust it 100%.

Jose Pinto

Ps: Tired, later I will try to correct the english, bye.


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PostPosted: May 8th, 2005, 12:09 
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Jose, are you a data recovery guy or a writer? :o


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PostPosted: May 13th, 2005, 8:15 
Still checking if there is someone here that want to learn something.
I already wrote here about what can be donne to learn about ATA commands ( not only me, but Dmitry, Valera, _vi_ and others ) and this is what is needed to work with disks, also I told that to see how ATA work there are some texts that can help, and later I said that to get the specific ata command ( this is what is needed to work with the disk ) you need to see how some utilities send the command to the disk, also the russians has a lot of samples and texts and including commands to teach this.
Now I found this book, and maybe has someone here that has interest in learn bout ATA terminal, if this is true the book is very usefull.
Link and small description about it.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 764574817/

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"Beginning with a basic primer on reverse engineering-including computer internals, operating systems, and assembly language-and then discussing the various applications of reverse engineering, this book provides readers with practical, in-depth techniques for software reverse engineering. The book is broken into two parts, the first deals with security-related reverse engineering and the second explores the more practical aspects of reverse engineering. In addition, the author explains how to reverse engineer a third-party software library to improve interfacing and how to reverse engineer a competitor's software to build a better product.
* The first popular book to show how software reverse engineering can help defend against security threats, speed up development, and unlock the secrets of competitive products
* Helps developers plug security holes by demonstrating how hackers exploit reverse engineering techniques to crack copy-protection schemes and identify software targets for viruses and other malware
* Offers a primer on advanced reverse-engineering, delving into "disassembly"-code-level reverse engineering-and explaining how to decipher assembly language

From the Back Cover
Sometimes, the best way to advance is in reverse

If you want to know how something works, you take it apart very carefully. That's exactly what this book shows you—how to deconstruct software in a way that reveals design and implementation details, sometimes even source code. Why? Because reversing reveals weak spots, so you can target your security efforts. Because you can reverse-engineer malicious code in order to neutralize it. Because understanding what makes a program work lets you build a better one. You'll learn how here.

* Learn to read compiler-generated assembly language code for IA-32 compatible processors
* Decipher an undocumented file format or network protocol
* Understand when reverse engineering is legal, and when—and why—it may not be
* See how hackers use reversing to defeat copy protection technology
* Find out how to pull the plug on malicious code
* Determine how to prevent others from reversing your code, and find out how effective such steps can be
* Explore reverse engineering on the .NET platform and its assembly language, MSIL
* Observe the dissection of a real-world malicious program and see how the attacker used it to control infected systems

Maybe, just maybe ....., who knows ? I do not know.
Jose Pinto


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 Post subject: RE: Thanks Jose
PostPosted: May 13th, 2005, 12:29 
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Hello Jose,

Thanks you for your information and suggestion.
And thanks again for teaching me on MSN last few months ago.


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 Post subject: How to address the SA
PostPosted: May 20th, 2005, 8:20 
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MHDD script engine could be very usefull if we know how to address the SA. Addressing the User Area is well described in the t13 documents, but there is nothing about the SA addressing. In PC3K manual one can find UBA addresing for the modern HDD's and CHS addressing for the olders. Is there anybody willing to share with us or with me (in pm) how to address SA in practice?


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 Post subject: Re: How to address the SA
PostPosted: May 20th, 2005, 9:25 
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BGman wrote:
MHDD script engine could be very usefull if we know how to address the SA. Is there anybody willing to share with us or with me (in pm) how to address SA in practice?


BGman - here you will get what you looking for Fujitsu MPG and others.

http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=28074

You should use fujtool to get a quick idea of the mods used by all Fujitsu drives - notebook drives vary a little and just for interest check the mods 9, 27, 31, 32 - and compare them with parts of 50, 51 & 52 (h) and then 54 with notebook drives. Enjoy !!

Then you can move to older IBM and search the forums for USAG.


Just convert the scripting HDDL uses in .ini files for MHDD.

Vendor commands ? - little is discussed these days - you can search hardw.net for some older WD drives and of course as suggested you can start dis-assembling.

Maybe you can show us some of your debugged scripts so others can learn as well.


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 Post subject: To fujimax
PostPosted: May 20th, 2005, 10:49 
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Thanks for the link fujimax. You can put links in russian also. I understand it pretty well...
Where could I get Fujitsu Explorer?


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 Post subject: Re: To fujimax
PostPosted: May 20th, 2005, 13:56 
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BGman wrote:
Where could I get Fujitsu Explorer?


Google.........and also get ibm explorer


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The author of CP.exe is the same that did HDDL (Mr.Lova Korjagin ), he also wrote a very good text about Code Pages and he also give a wonderfull explanation about LDR ( thank you very much Mr. Lova Korjagin ), the text is about "DISKWARE" and Mr. Dmitry Kissilev now in Action Front made a translation of this document from russian to english ( thank you very much,


Any idea where I can find that English translation ? Google didn't help much ...


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